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NOTE: This is NOT From the Restored Church of God. This is an Exposé showing what David C. Pack is teaching in CONTRAST with what Mr. Herbert W Armstrong and the Worldwide Church of God taught! By Archives Staff In David C Pack’s sermon titled “Watchman to Israel – Messenger to Laodicea – Part 01 & Part 02” David C. Pack uses one scripture to “prove”, there are TWO Watchman in the end-time. One Mr. Armstrong, and the other himself. Here’s the scripture,
“Make ye mention to the nations; behold, publish against Jerusalem, that WATCHERS come from a far country, and give out their voice against the cities of Judah.” Jeremiah 4:16.This, he claims, that this proves that there has to be ANOTHER watchman. NOW, let’s look at the context of this scripture. Starting with verse 14:
“Jer 4:14 O Jerusalem, wash thine heart from wickedness, that thou mayest be saved. How long shall thy vain thoughts lodge within thee? Jer 4:15 For a voice declareth from Dan, and publisheth affliction from mount Ephraim. Jer 4:16 Make ye mention to the nations; behold, publish against Jerusalem, that watchers come from a far country, and give out their voice against the cities of Judah.”NOW, let’s look at the Bibles interpretation of the “watchers”.
Verse 17 “As keepers of a field, are they against her round about; because she hath been rebellious against me, saith the LORD.”Now put them together…
” Make ye mention to the nations; behold, publish against Jerusalem, that watchers come from a far country, and give out their voice against the cities of Judah. As keepers of a field, are they against her round about; because she hath been rebellious against me, saith the LORD.” Zechariah 4:16-17This plainly refers to the nations surrounding Jerusalem. Notice even the secular Commentaries agree with what the Bible teaches on this. James Fausset and Brown says
” The neighboring foreign “nations” are summoned to witness Jehovah’s judgments on His rebel people (Jer_6:18, Jer_6:19). watchers — that is, besiegers (compare 2Sa_11:16); observed or watched, that is, besieged. their voice — the war shout. keepers of a field — metaphor from those who watch a field, to frighten away the wild beasts.”Clark’s Commentary says
“Watchers come from a far country – Persons to besiege fortified places.”David C. Pack claims he is ONE of those watchers! Also, during this sermon he deals with some letters “attacking” him, some people calling him demon possessed. He just brushes them off as “attacks toward God’s man”. But during this sermon he goes and explains something that is VERY revealing! He was talking about the time when he was writing “Annoint your eyes”. Apparently he didn’t write it out, he dictated it to his wife, which typed it up for him. He said that “he doesn’t know what he, himself, says”, nor does he “understand it, until after he says it”. Paraphrasing of course. He doesn’t know what he was saying, nor does he understand what he was saying until he already spoke it. This is CLEAR evidence of a demon. He then claims that he was NEVER part of Global. “He worked with them, but was never a member.” That is clearly a straight out lie. He was on the Board which fired Roderick Meredith from Global. He then compares it with Mr. Armstrong’s example of being associated with Sardis, but not being one of their members. Saying it was the same with him and Global. NOW, if that was the case, he’s saying that global was the previous era, and he was the leader of the next. That is saying he’s not a Philadelphian, but a Laodicean. Now I’m not saying global was philadelphia, far from it, but you get the point. BUT, he then contradicts himself by saying shortly after that he is the “messenger/angel of laodicea” but he’s not what Christ says of him in the Book of Revelation. He’s NOT LAODICEAN. And he’s saying HE’S NOT PHILADELPHIAN. He admits in his satanic way, that HE’S NOT A MEMBER OF THE CHURCH! Yet in the same breath saying he is.Confusing right? Who is the Author of this confusion? 1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace…” He then explains what a messenger is. He says a messenger brings good news OR bad news, or BOTH. He then explains that there was ONLY TWO Church era’s who’s message was ONLY GOOD NEWS. Smyrna, and Philadelphia.(because they weren’t told anything bad about them, no bad news) The ONLY one that had ONLY BAD NEWS is Laodicea. Nothing good said about them. He then precedes to say that you don’t NEED to heed the Good News! You can heed the Bad news and still make it, he claims. WHAT does GOSPEL mean? Everyone knows it means GOOD NEWS. What is a requirement to be part of the Church? “Repent, and BELIEVE the GOSPEL” the Good News of the Kingdom of God. He is saying “repent and Believe the ‘aschima NEA’ or ‘bad news'”. The exact OPPOSITE of God’s Word! Now, He then calls himself the messenger of Laodicea. The Messenger who only brings BAD NEWS, not Good News, he claims. Isn’t this his admission that he doesn’t preach the GOSPEL? The Good NEWS? Let’s look at the scripture
“Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; Rev 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Rev 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: Rev 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. Rev 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. Rev 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. Rev 3:22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. “Notice Christ is speaking to the ANGEL or MESSENGER of the Laodiceans. Everything said here is directed to that leader of that era. Of course, David C. Pack says he’s this messenger, but he says these scriptures are not talking about him, it’s talking about the message he speaks. LOL. He then continues to say that these messages are NOT to the Church era’s! THAT REJECTS THE RESTORED TRUTH ABOUT THE 7 CHURCH ERA’S! Now I’m NOT saying he’s the Laodicean Church’s leader. He’s Far From it. That Church and era is not here YET. And now, he’s claiming to be the JOSHUA of Zechariah. Mr. David C Pack claims to be an Apostle. An Apostle was taught by Jesus Christ ONLY, only after the man had wiped CLEAN his mind of this world’s ways and teachings.(NOTICE Mr. Armstrong explains this about his experience). Mr. Armstrong had his mind wiped clean of this world’s ways and was taught ONLY what the Bible said(Jesus Christ in Print). Mr. Armstrong was producing fruits and never claimed to be one BEFORE he realized what office Christ gave him. He was evangelizing FIRST. David C. Pack was only pastor rank, before he claimed the office APOSTLE. He passed a few ranks to get where he claims now. Herbert W Armstrong was trained by Jesus Christ personally by the Word of God, not in any seminary/college, taught by men and their doctrines and beliefs. David C. Pack was taught by MEN! He was taught in Ambassador College what he OUGHT to teach, of which has failed to do. David Pack claims He CAN’T CHANGE what Mr. Armstrong taught. His Job is mostly with prophecy, he claims. But he changes what Mr. Armstrong taught over and over again. So far in summary, David C. Pack
- claims to be one of the “Watchers” of Jeremiah 4, one of those who are against Jerusalem, enemies to be in fact(Not his words, but the Bible’s).
- He also is clearly demon possessed. And this is by his own lips that proves it. (saying things without knowing what is said, nor understanding what he has said until after he has said it shows something is in control, not his own mind. Certainly not God.)
- He claims he NEVER was part of the Global Church of God through the 1990’s. When he was a very big part of it.
- He, with his analogy, explains that he’s not Philadelphian, nor is he Laodicean. But one outside of the Church.
- He then explains that he’s not preaching the Good News, the Gospel. But Bad News(ασχημα ΝΕΑ – aschima NEA).
- He Claims the seven messages to the Churches, are NOT messages to the Church ERA’S! But given to the messengers, individuals, INDEPENDENT of the God’s Church mentioned. This rejects the restored Truth about The Seven Church Era’s, that Christ restored.
- He claims to be an Apostle, when in fact by his fruits he’s NOT.
- He Claims to be messenger of Laodicean and what “PROVES” it, is that he wrote a ton of books!
- He claims to have RE-WRITTEN every single book of Mr. Armstrong, except Mystery of the Ages. He, in this sermon explains that he was a bit confused on the matter about that. He felt “God” told him to leave that book alone, that book was OFF LIMITS. While he was explaining this, you get the impression he was confused about why he couldn’t re-write it. It was like his body was willing, but his “spirit/Demon” was told not to. He didn’t understand why. It was just strange.
- He also claims that you have to JOIN the RCG. “JOIN THE CHURCH” he claims. Which again is WRONG, because you can’t JOIN God’s Church.
- He even appeared on the history Channel’s series titled ” The Nostradamus effect: Satan’s Army”.(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOjChoHGBYM) Supporting Nostradamus.
- He claimed Mr. Armstrong wasn’t given understanding about the Laodicean Era, and it’s message to that Church. LOL. Anyone who knows what was taught knows he taught it.
DO WE “JOIN” GOD’S CHURCH? Many teach that FALSE doctrine Today! David C. Pack mentioned something in his Open Letter to all WCG Splinters(dated 2013), that… well I’ll just quote it…
http://rcg.org/sep/rcg_fruits_2013.html Let me call to remembrance what The True Church taught, although the RCG claims
“We pray diligently that more will follow Christ’s command to “anoint their eyes” and join HIS Church.” – David C. Pack
Take a look at the following.
“…we did not break the grand pattern set by Mr. Armstrong—any of it!” – David C. Pack
Herbert W. Armstrong Plain Truth Subscriber Letter March 10,1965 Herbert W. Armstrong
“Nowhere in the New Testament do we find that Jesus, or the Apostles, ever coaxed, urged or cajoled anyone into “joining” the Church. They merely proclaimed the TRUTH — the GOOD NEWS — of the Kingdom of God. No one was urged to “join.” In fact, according to the Bible, one CANNOT join God’s true Church. If we have not received the GIFT of God’s Spirit, “we are none of His” (Rom. 8:9). The proclaiming of the Gospel by Jesus and by His Apostles was merely EDUCATIONAL — proclaiming God’s TRUTH — leaving all hearers free to make their own decision.
We follow their example. No one is ever asked to join. No one is ever urged or pleaded with to “give their heart to the Lord,” in the way many Churches do. We are not proselyters. We make no effort to take members away from other Churches.”
Armstrong CoWorker letter June 1936 Herbert W. Armstrong
All About Water Baptism Booklet By Herbert W. Armstrong
“How, then, does one get INTO the true CHURCH OF GOD, which is THE BODY OF CHRIST? Does he JOIN it, like one joins a lodge or a worldly club or society? Brethren, there is not a single text in the Bible that speaks of JOINING THE CHURCH! Rather, “God adds to the Church SUCH AS MIGHT BE SAVED!” (Acts 2:47). Ministers have no doubt written out membership certificates to many who ARE NOT SAVED! Many have accepted an ARGUMENT — many have accepted so-called “Church of God doctrine,” — many are resting and attending church on the Sabbath — who have never been truly CONVERTED — who have never really DIED and been BORN AGAIN, and who do not have THE HOLY SPIRIT! It is only those being SAVED — who have THE HOLY SPIRIT — whom GOD adds to His true CHURCH. Men may add others to their organizations, but GOD only adds those being SAVED to HIS CHURCH! How does God put us into the true CHURCH OF GOD? “By one SPIRIT are we all baptised (put into) into ONE BODY.” (I Cor. 12:13). Not by joining it. Not by some preacher writing out a membership certificate! Not by “casting your lot,” or “Taking your stand.” And note it! There is but just the ONE BODY!”
Mystery of the Ages By Herbert W. Armstrong
“Note well these facts: One may “join” a lodge, social club, or organized group of MEN (and most churches today have degenerated into social societies). But ONE CANNOT JOIN THE TRUE CHURCH OF GOD! You cannot GET in of your own accord! No, GOD MUST PUT YOU IN — no man can do it — you cannot do it yourself!”
Where Is the True Church Booklet By Herbert W. Armstrong
“True Christians: Draftees—Not Volunteers
It is only through Christ that sinning humanity may be reconciled to God the Father. They must first come to Christ. But no person can come to Christ except God the Father selects and, through his Holy Spirit, draws them.
That may come as an astonishing new truth, but the more you study the New Testament, and how this truth is constantly borne out throughout the New Testament, the more clear this will become to you.
No wonder the Church and its purpose has been a mystery. Satan has blinded the minds of a deceived and counterfeit Christianity.
Anyone who “joins the church of his choice” has not come into God’s true Church. One cannot just “join” the true Church of God. One is first selected and drawn by God the Father through his Spirit, brought to a complete heartrending repentance, and changed in his total life-style, and has also not only believed in and accepted Jesus Christ as personal Savior, but also has believed Christ. Remember Christ is the Word of God. Jesus was the Word of God in Person. The Bible is the same Word of God in writing. To believe Christ is to believe what he says—in other words, to believe God’s Word the Holy Bible.”
How To Recognize The True Church Plain Truth April 1968
“So, when Satan failed to prevent the Church from being founded and getting off to a glorious start, what did he do next? He deceived certain humans into seeking to destroy the Church from within. There’s a saying, “If you can’t defeat them, join them. He caused some within the Church to turn to a false and counterfeit gospel.In Galatians 1:6-7, we read that the churches in Galatia had turned to “another gospel.” They had believed those who began to proclaim “another Jesus” (II Cor. 11:4). These false ministers professing to be ministers of Christ were in fact ministers of Satan (verses 13-15). Thus, from false brethren within the Church, Satan succeeded finally in deceiving even the vast majority in the Church. He succeeded in turning this majority into a growing false and counterfeit church.”
Just What Is The Church By Herbert W. Armstrong
“Jesus purchased THE TRUE CHURCH by shedding His blood for it (Acts 20:28). The TRUE Church is not some politically organized denomination which one JOINS or becomes a member, of in order to be “saved.” Jesus did not die for some one religious denomination or another — called a church.
Joining a local church congregation does not put you into God’s true Church! Any church you can “join” is NOT God’s Church!
You CAN’T JOIN the true Church; only God can PUT YOU INTO IT BY HIS SPIRIT (I Cor. 12:13). God alone can make you a member of His Church — if you surrender your life to Him.
God will give that Spirit only to those who are willing to “OBEY HIM”! (Acts 5:32.)
When YOU receive God’s Spirit — which is the spirit of a sound, sane mind (II Tim. 1:6-7), you become at that moment a newly begotten member of the body of Christ — which is the true Church of God!
The receiving of God’s Spirit and the MIND OF CHRIST (Phil. 2:5) upon REPENTANCE and BAPTISM PUTS YOU INTO, baptizes you into God’s TRUE Church!
“For by ONE SPIRIT are we all baptized into ONE BODY to (I Cor. 12:13).
YOU can be part of God’s true Church by earnestly repenting of your sins — disobedience to GOD’S LAWS — by asking God to cover your sins through the blood of Jesus Christ, by calling on God’s true servants to baptize you, and by claiming God’s promise of the gift of His Holy Spirit. In that way, and that way ONLY, does anyone enter into the true Church.
Church attendance is not the most important thing! Church attendance does not, by itself, mean CHURCH MEMBERSHIP in God’s sight! Some people view “church going” as an end in itself. But it most definitely IS NOT.
God expressly forbids His people ever to join in with the worship of counterfeit church bodies — no matter how “close” to the truth they might seem! Only the genuine worship of God with His TRUE Church is acceptable to Him!
You need to thoroughly EXAMINE YOURSELF. You NEED TO BE SURE!
If YOU have TRULY REPENTED of YOUR sins and now realize the VITAL NECESSITY of personal contact with and guidance by JESUS CHRIST and His TRUE SERVANTS, write regarding baptism to Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong.
Your eternal salvation is at stake! May God help you to heed this warning!”
Just What Is a CO-WORKER? by Herbert W. Armstrong page 1 Good News August 1982
“So note it well! One cannot enter the true Church by putting himself in-by “joining. One may join a social club, a sports team, or a secular group-but NOT the Church of God. Incidentally, is it not significant that so many of this world’s “churches” have become, virtually, just social clubs?… ” “…And thus it is that the CHURCH is composed of those who are the children of God. That is why the CHURCH is the Church of GOD, even as the Old Testament Church was called “the congregation of Israel”-the human children of Israel.
That is why, also, one CANNOT PUT HIMSELF into the Church by “deciding to JOIN.” When he becomes a son of GOD, by having and being led by the Spirit of God (Rom. 8:14), then God has PUT HIM INTO the Church by begetting him as a son of God.
“Joining” a group that calls itself a church-having one’s name on the membership roll of some group calling itself a church-does not make one in true fact a member of THE Church Jesus founded. Here is positive proof: “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his” (Romans 8:9).” “Is it possible that one who has joined a sect, church, or denomination NOT doing God’s Work, might be truly converted, and led by God’s Spirit in him? The answer is YES-I have known of a few. But in every case, either they came INTO the organized spiritual organism Christ is using in the real Work of God-or, when their eyes were opened to further light and truth, they rejected it and LOST the Spirit of God. And this was amply demonstrated by the fruits.”
Why Churches Are Divided Plain Truth March 1982 Herbert W. Armstrong
“And let me first say that the Worldwide Church of God is nondenominational and nonproselyting. It does not solicit or urge people to become members, or to join.
In fact, one cannot “join” this Church. One enters only by being baptized by the Holy Spirit into this, God’s Church. Of course we joyfully welcome all whom God through Christ baptizes into His Church.”
The Ambassador College Bible Correspondence Course Lesson 19, 1983 WHAT and WHY the CHURCH?
“Some, not realizing one of God’s own called and consecrated ministers could call and explain and answer questions, have JOINED one of the churches of this world. You cannot JOIN the true Church of God-the Almighty GOD puts you in.”
Meaning of Days of Unleavened bread April 6, 1985 Herbert W. Armstrong
“The members of God’s Church do not merely decide that they would like to “join” His Church, decide what they would like to believe, and begin attending services. It is God who calls an individual and grants repentance (John 6:44; Rom. 2:4), and new members are added to the Church of God only upon repentance, baptism and receipt of God’s Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38, 47; I Cor. 12:13). The repentant believer becomes a begotten child of God when he receives the gift of the Holy Spirit. And he believes the doctrines Jesus has put into His Church.”
How Good and Pleasant Sept 29, 1985 Herbert W. Armstrong
“Brethren, I won’t compromise. If you want to compromise, go join one of these factions that have turned off from us that are LIBERAL. They’ll be real liberal. They let you go if you want to go Satan’s way instead of God’s way, and PRETEND that you’re in the Kingdom of God, PRETEND YOU’RE IN GOD’S CHURCH. If you want to KID YOURSELF, go do it until you die. But you’re being JUDGED NOW. JUDGMENT IS ON THE HOUSE OF GOD. JUDGMENT IS ON US. JUDGMENT IS NOT ON THE PEOPLE IN CHINA AND THE PEOPLE IN INDIA AND THE PEOPLE IN RUSSIA. JUDGMENT IS NOT ON EVEN THE PROTESTANTS AND THE CATHOLICS YET. BUT JUDGMENT IS ON US; AND WE’RE BEING JUDGED, BRETHREN.”
Prove All Things: What and Why the Church? By Bernard W. Schnippert Good News May 1985
“In fact, you can’t join God’s Church. You never were joined. You were put in by the Spirit of God. You were baptized into the Church by the Spirit of God. That’s the way we come into God’s true Church.”
Why Some Fall Away By Leroy Neff Good news Jan 1961
“Most people, for example, consider a church to be a building, or at least those persons who have “joined” a certain organization by registering on its official rolls. Some think the purpose of a church is merely to perpetuate itself and do little more than provide social events for its members. Others take an almost opposite approach and become virtually obnoxious by trying to proselytize and force people to believe as they do and join with them.”
Where Is God’s TRUE CHURCH Today? booklet By Brian Knowles
“You Can’t “Join” God’s Church
We do not “join” the body of Christ. God makes us a part of it through His Holy Spirit after COMPLETE REPENTANCE, BAPTISM, and a total change of attitude. We remain in the church ONLY by CONTINUING in this right attitude and by OVERCOMING through prayer and faith and obedience.
We do not become a part of the body of Christ by telling our friends or neighbors that I “belong to the Radio Church of God.” Nor do we become a part of that true body of believers by just signing a statement. We do not become a part of that TRUE BODY BY BAPTISM ALONE. It requires complete repentance and submission to God — and faith toward Jesus Christ — before we are put into the true Church of God. Let us not deceive ourselves. We may fool some people, but we cannot fool God. HE IS OUR JUDGE.
Don’t deceive yourself. It is time to examine yourself to determine whether or not you are in the faith. Whether or not you are truly a part of God’s Church in this climactic end-time.
The time is fast approaching when it will be too late for change and correction, too late to go to the place of safety that God is preparing for His people.
Some of you are sinning and know it. You have procrastinated and delayed obeying God. God is merciful, kind, loving, patient. But there always comes a time when God’s patience ends. Then will be the time of action. He may permit you to continue in sin for a season, but if you do not repent and change, He will soon cut you off IN YOUR SINS.
Others of you are sinning and cannot see your sin.
Why? Because you are not continually looking into God’s Word for correction. Sin is the transgression of the law. It defines what sin is. The Word of God is a spiritual mirror. Look into that spiritual mirror to see your sin.”
What Is A Church? By R. A. Wiedenheft Tomorrow’s World, May 1971
“How Made a Member
But how may one become a member of the body of Christ? Is it merely a matter of joining the “church of your choice”?
Jesus said: “No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day” (John 6:44, 65).
One cannot decide to join the body of Christ. It is something God must put you into. We are instructed by the Apostle Paul that “…now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him” (I Cor. 12:18).
It is God alone who decides who will compose the body of Christ. It is God who adds to the Church those whom He chooses to be saved. “…And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved” (Acts 2:47).
How, then, does God add a member to the Church? Is it a matter of signing on some dotted line? What is it that signifies membership in the Church of God?
Paul informs us: “For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit” (I Cor. 12:13).
It is the Holy Spirit — which is the power of God (Acts 1:8) — which puts us into the body of Christ. We are immersed or plunged into the Church by the receipt of God’s Spirit. (Write for our free article titled “How You Can Be Imbued with the Power of God.”)
One cannot put himself into the Church by “deciding to join.” When he becomes a son of God, by having and being led by the Holy Spirit of God (Rom. 8:14), then God has put him into the Church.
“Joining” a group that calls itself a church — having one’s name on the membership roll of some group calling itself a church — does not make one in true fact a member of the Church Jesus founded. Here is positive proof: “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his” (Rom. 8:9).
It is the living Christ who puts members into His Church — and it is done by the Holy Spirit. Notice, now, the conditions for receiving God’s Spirit — Acts 2:38: “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.” This is speaking of being baptized in water. (Write for our free booklet titled All About Water Baptism.)
The Holy Spirit is given by the laying on of hands following baptism (Acts 19:5, 6). A person who receives the Holy Spirit is “begotten” or conceived of God. Following a life of developing and overcoming, the Christian is “born” into the Family of God at the resurrection and return of Christ (I Cor. 15:50-54; I Thess. 4:13-17; Rev. 20:4-6; Phil. 3:20-21; I John 3:1-2; II Tim. 4:8).
That body of believers, having the Holy Spirit of God, constitutes the Church of God. But does this mean that the Church has no organization?”“…Only God can place one into the body of Christ. The true Church is not something you may “join” — it is something you are immersed into by the Spirit of the living God. But, if God is leading you by His Spirit to His truth, it is up to you as an individual to seek Him.”
Do You Compromise with Truth? By Roderick Meredith Plain Truth Dec 1964
“CHURCH business today is big business! Millions of dollars are spent on “churches” and millions of people go “to church” every week.
But few realize that by Biblical definition, one cannot go to or construct a church.
In every case in the New Testament, the word “church” is translated from the Greek word ekklesia, which Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance defines as “a calling out, i.e., a popular meeting, a religious congregation.” It is also translated “assembly” a few times.
Notice some examples of how ekklesia is used in the New Testament.
Paul instructed the Roman Christians to “Greet Priscilla and Aquila, my helpers in Christ Jesus…. Likewise greet the church that is in their house” (Rom. 16:3, 5). Obviously there was no separate physical edifice in the house of Priscilla and Aquila, but the assembly of called-out ones — the Church — met there.
Paul referred to the same congregation (hosted by Priscilla and Aquila) in I Cor. 16:19. “The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.” Colossians 4:15 refers to a congregation that met in the home of Nymphas in or near Laodicea. Philemon also had a church meeting in his home (Philemon 2).
In the book of Acts, Luke referred to the Church in the days following Pentecost, 31 A.D. “And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple…. Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved” (Acts 2:46-47).
The Church grows as Christ adds individuals to it; and it is wholly composed of those whom He has called out of the world — those who are set apart by Him to be a part of His body.
Paul wrote of Christ, “And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, and the firstborn from the dead …” (Col. 1:18). In verse 24 Paul referred to himself, “Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body’s sake, which is the church.”
Paul was willing to suffer for the Church — the body of Christ — those who had repented and had been converted by God.
How plain! The Church is not the building. It’s not something one can go to or join!
It is the sum total of all true Christians who have been begotten by the Holy Spirit, who have been called out by God, and have thus become part of the body of Christ — the true Church of God!”
Should You ASSEMBLE Without a Minister? By Herman Hoeh Good News Oct 1957
“So it is with many readers of The PLAIN TRUTH. They see God teaches a message of literal obedience. They see that it involves unspectacular and unpopular activities — like telling the TRUTH in all business and personal dealings, actually coming OUT of this vain, confused world and its mixed-up society, ceasing to live in adultery, keeping holy the days God made holy.
Their human nature REBELS! They don’t want to REPENT of their REAL SINS! How much easier it would be to shake the preacher’s hand and “give their heart to the Lord.” How much easier to join a worldly “social club” that masquerades under the name of a “church.””
Amazing 2000 Year history of the Church Of God By Herman Hoeh Good News Jun 1958
“To many people, a local congregation becomes a place of SOCIAL rather than SPIRITUAL fellowship. People join themselves together, instead of BEING JOINED TO CHRIST. In John 15:5, Jesus said: “I am the vine, ye are the branches.” What would you think if the branches would say to themselves, let us bundle ourselves together?”
ACBC Lesson 52 – The Book and the church they couldn’t destroy
“The true Church is the collective body of individuals, called out from the ways of this present world, who have TOTALLY surrendered themselves to the rule of God, and who, through the Holy Spirit, become the begotten sons of God (Rom. 8:9).
The true Church is not some POLITICALLY ORGANIZED DENOMINATION which one joins or becomes a member of in order to be “saved.” Jesus did not die for some one ORGANIZATION called a Church (Acts 20:28).
You can’t join the true Church; ONLY GOD CAN PUT YOU INTO IT!
The Church is called the body of Christ because it is a SPIRITUAL ORGANISM whose LIVING, ACTIVE HEAD is Jesus Christ, in the same sense that the husband is HEAD of the wife (Eph. 5:23, 31).
Notice that from the very beginning the Church was subject to the rule of God. It was not a government by the will of man or boards of men. Jesus is the Head of the Church. He rules the Church. Read the accompanying article in this issue.”
Which Day Is The Christian Sabbath? By Herbert W. Armstrong
“In the history of God’s Church it has been repeatedly true that “many shall cleave to them with flatteries” (Dan. 11:34). The Thyatira Era was no exception. Partly because MANY were dissatisfied with the degradation and oppression of the established church, a large number of friends and others who sympathized with God’s true people were found in every country where God’s people went. But THEY were not the Church, even though the world regarded them all as Waldenses!
Most of them were, at best, only co-workers — perhaps sincere, but unconverted — who had never given themselves completely and unreservedly to God.
Now notice what this situation led to. It “prepared the way for the transformation of his (Waldo’s) following (those who cleaved with fatteries) into a sect or antichurch, a tendency already present in 1184. Under the pressure of persecution even the ‘friends’ felt themselves sectaries, and became increasingly merged with the main body (or better said, the small flock) of Waldenses” (from the Schaff-Herzog RELIGIOUS ENCYCLOPEDIA, article “Waldenses”). They then began to join THEMSELVES together, rather than being all united through the Holy Spirit.
These people were not themselves the True Church, though the True Church was AMONG them.
That is why they began so soon to compromise with error, and to commit “spiritual fornication.””
Armstrong Plain Truth Subscriber Letter May 27, 1969 Herbert W. Armstrong
“We can have true Christian fellowship only when each individual Christian is joined to Christ, and to the Father—as a branch of a grapevine joined to the vine.
Now what joins the many branches of that vine to one another? When people meet on their own human-appointed day, trying to join themselves together in a church group, Christ is not present with them in that fellowship. He never put His presence in that day! They are like a lot of grape branches, cut off from the vine, trying to join themselves together!”
WHY YOU NEED TO CHANGE By Roderick Meredith Tomorrow’s World Feb 1971
“There are so many of these “come-on” schemes to get your money that I know it seems hard to realize that when we offer you something of real value WITHOUT ANY CHARGE — and tell you we have nothing to sell — you are not going to be asked to buy anything, or join anything — it is THE TRUTH, and there are no tricks or deceptions or gimmicks!
YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD OF ANY OPERATION LIKE OURS! It is utterly unique. And isn’t it, after all, a refreshing experience to find something of vital value, with no such come-ons — something 100% aboveboard, honest and sincere?”
What is Real Christianity? By Neil Earle Good News Oct/Nov 1982
“For God’s true Church cannot be “joined.” It is composed of those who have been called OUT of this “untoward generation” by God Himself to receive His Spirit, to understand His prophecies now rapidly being fulfilled, and to qualify for a position in His divine Government soon to be set up on this war-torn, sin-sick earth — the glorious Kingdom of God!”
Seven Proofs of God’s TRUE CHURCH Booklet
“Obey Christ, and you’ll encounter persecution (II Tim. 3:12). Jesus Christ’s simplest teachings are spiritual blockbusters far too revolutionary for those who join denominations like social clubs to improve their civic status.”
“It is only those who have really been conquered of God, who have unconditionally repented, been baptized, and have really received of His Spirit who are members of His Church.
They are then joined to Him. They do not join themselves together, becoming a “group” of human beings known by a certain name. Rather, they become directly joined to Christ!
Notice it: “I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman,” said Jesus. “Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away…. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing” (John 15:1-5).
The newly begotten child of God becomes directly joined to Christ. He is the Vine supplying the life-giving sap from the roots which produces the fruit on the branches. The branches, or the individual members of the Church, are joined only through the vine. If any member is not truly in Christ, and Christ living in Him, then he is not a member of the true Church.
“That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you” wrote John, “that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ” (I John 1:3).
The true fellowship of one member of the Church to another is in and through the Father and the Son. Any worldly organization of men, banding themselves together in their own fellowship, is just like a group of branches lying in a pile. Not joined to a productive, life-giving vine, they are unproductive; they are lifeless.
Do you see? The name of the true Church of God is a vitally important proof of the Church. It is not to be taken lightly; it has real meaning.
God names things for what they are.”[Last of articles]
NOTICE!! You cannot JOIN GOD’S CHURCH!Getting back to what David C. Pack teaches… Yet David C. Pack continues to Preach This!
“In God’s Church, we do not have as a goal to “get big!” This is no longer Philadelphia’s time! Those of Philadelphian attitude must expect to be outnumbered. However, when all those with God’s Spirit have been joined to us, we will likely become the largest group—and maybe by far.” http://rcg.org/sep/books/wtrcog.html
again further down,
“Many waited to see our “fruit” before joining us. Be certain your definition of “fruit” does not include size. While numbers are irrelevant to your decision, one look at just our websites reveals an explosion of fruit—that we are already doing an immense work that towers over organizations much larger, older and wealthier than we. Our websites describe the who, what, where, when, why and how of God’s Church. Also, consider that if everyone waited to see appear whatever is their definition of “fruits,” for months or even years, no one would have come to help produce the “fruit” others—and possibly you—want to evaluate today. So, there are two types of people who will join us. In the end, both belong.
First: Those who will come through fire, hail, wind and storm to be at the right place—as long as they know it is right. Size means nothing to them! Second: The many additional people who must see many others do this before they will. They will want to see a certain amount of size before coming. Right or wrong, this is historically the way of human nature. Of course, we are well into this second phase, with most still recognizing and accepting they are joining a group still for a while smaller than the biggest splinters.” http://rcg.org/sep/books/wtrcog.html
In Section 2 it states
“A word to all the “unaffiliated”—those who chose to “stay home”: Many of you may have recognized very early that heresies or improper conduct were condoned by every “corporate” organization that left the WCG. You chose not to join any of them (or did and then felt compelled to leave), but perhaps tried to hold firm, either on your own or in small, loose groups. Many of you have been abused, as a direct result of the politics in the WCG, but also later in other groups. You are urged to carefully consider what God is doing in His Church—The Restored Church of God! Do not forget this vital passage: “And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as you see the day approaching” (Heb. 10:24-25).” http://rcg.org/sep/books/wtrcog.html
It seems this is a social club, something to “JOIN”. POINT after POINT, David C. Pack says “JOIN God’s Church”, “Join the RCG”! That is NOT God’s Church! As you can see it is CONTRARY to what the Church taught, AND what the BIBLE teaches! I also noticed this attitude throughout his writings, the “GET” attitude, in CONTRAST with God’s Holy Spirit of “GIVE”. David C. Pack states,
“By now, you know we are not just another “splinter.” These questions arise: Who should join The Restored Church of God? What does membership in Restored mean? What should you expect if you come with us?”
AGAIN you cannot JOIN GOD’S CHURCH!!! It is not an organization of MEN! THIS REMINDS ME of 2 Timothy 3. This attitude/spirit is prevalent with David C. Pack, and HIS Church. BEWARE unless we fall into such traps, and/or become such a person. Read: 2Ti 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2Ti 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 2Ti 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 2Ti 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness(THE FORM OF GOD’S GOVERNMENT?), but denying the power thereof: from such turn away(HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM). 2Ti 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.(INTELLECTUALS, Talk a big talk, write MANY books) 2Ti 3:8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. 2Ti 3:9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was. ]]>
“Though we do not require you to run a gauntlet of extensive counseling to join us, we do want you sure of your decision—so that we both “know what we are getting.””(same page as above)
“I must be blunt. If you are joining Restored, it must be because you believe this is God’s Church—where His government, truth and Work reside.” http://rcg.org/sep/books/wtrcog.html
“We have just covered the truth that God set officials to serve on the human level under Christ, in the Church. Members do not elect them. Yet in the churches of this world some believe in government by the entire congregation—“democracy”—and call themselves “Congregational.” Others have organized themselves into government by ministers or presbytery and call themselves “Presbyterian.” Some follow Luther and call themselves “Lutheran.” Some follow Wesley, who was strong on “method,” and call themselves “Methodist.” Some learned God’s truth about baptizing and call their church after the name of that one doctrine, “Baptist.” One wanted complete universal world dominion, and called itself “Catholic,” which means “universal.” What is the name of the Church Jesus founded? “
“Notice that Paul did not call the true Church “Catholic” or “Protestant.” Nowhere is the true Church called after the name of a MAN or after the name of a doctrine.”
Michael Venish of the “Vigilant Church of God”, in his video “Our Commission” explaining the name of his church group “The Vigilant Church of God”.
“Oh by the way, “The Vigilant…” , the word “vigilant” means “keeping careful watch”. And that is EXACTLY what Jesus Christ and Herbert Armstrong said we should do!”