God commands that we in His Church "all speak the same thing."


by Herbert W. Armstrong  

page 1 Good News April 1979  


God commands that we in His Church “all speak the same thing.” But WHY? HOW? Christ’s apostle is accused of using “total thought control” over the Church. What is the TRUTH?  


THERE’S NO QUESTION about it — God commands emphatically that we in His Church do “all speak the same thing” (I Cor. 1:10).  

For many years I have striven to bring all God’s children into a unity of belief (Ps. 133:1).  

Did you ever stop to think how many things we believe and proclaim to the world that are contrary to the doctrines and teachings of all other churches calling themselves “Christian”?  

I am writing a book, titled A VOICE CRIES OUT Amid RELIGIOUS CONFUSION. This book will say that of all the religions and all the more than 250 denominations and sects in “Christianity,” NOT ONE, except the Worldwide Church of God, knows WHO and WHAT God is! NOT ONE knows what, and why, MAN IS! NOT ONE knows the TRUTH about the nation Israel — WHY God chose them, yet gave none but their prophets His Holy Spirit — where they are today. NOT ONE knows what is the TRUE GOSPEL Christ proclaimed! NOT ONE knows what happens in the hereafter — the transcendent human potential. NOT ONE knows the real function of the Church and purpose of its being.  

None but God’s true Church  

NONE but God’s one and only TRUE CHURCH has the full knowledge God has revealed to His own Church. NOT ONE knows what salvation really is!  

Doesn’t it, then, become abundantly apparent that we must all know precisely what God has prepared for those who love Him — and that we speak these amazing TRUTHS as they are — all speaking the same thing?  

Now WHY does God command that we all speak the same thing — believe the same doctrines and truths?  

And HOW has Christ provided that we all come to know, believe and speak “the same thing”? By psychological mind control? NEVER!  

But first, WHY is it important that we all believe and speak the same DOCTRINES? Continue in I Corinthians 1:10: “that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.”  

Will God’s Kingdom be divided?  

UNDERSTAND this! If we are led by the Spirit of God we shall enter into His Kingdom of God at the time of Christ’s coming and the resurrection. Will GOD’S Kingdom be divided?  

Again, we are, so to speak, in the process of being trained for entrance into the Kingdom of God, where WE SHALL JUDGE ANGELS (I Cor. 6:3).  

A kingdom or a house divided against itself cannot stand! Even two cannot walk together except they be agreed! (Amos 3:3).  

A few years ago, when I had high hopes that my son, Garner Ted, might qualify in God’s sight for very high office in God’s Kingdom, I said to him, “Ted, I often think of you and me as a father-and-son team, and how wonderful it would seem if we could be like the Father-and-Son divine Team that heads the entire universe! But to walk together as God and Christ do, we would have to remember that the Son agreed completely with the Father in all things. He said, “‘I have not spoken of myself; the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment what I should say’ ” (John 12:49).  

But as soon as I mentioned that the Divine Son was in total agreement with His Father, Ted would immediately change the subject.  

How do we come to know WHO and WHAT God is, and the other truths mentioned above that are not known by any other church or religion? Jesus Christ revealed them to His apostle, who taught these precious truths to you! And how precious they are!  

A corollary to I Corinthians 1:10 is Romans 16:17-18: “Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.”  

“Avoid them” means just that. Walk away from them. Do not invite them into your home. “If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed” (II John 10).  

Completely AVOIDING those ex-communicated who hold and speak a different doctrine is IMPORTANT with God. To the Thessalonians God made this a command: “Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received from us [that is, from Christ’s true apostles] . . . And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him” (II Thess. 3:6, 14).  

This is SO IMPORTANT to GOD that He had the apostle John, in the 90s, A.D., write, as quoted above, “If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine” (as received through Christ’s apostles), “receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed” (II John 10).  

My own son, whom I love, does NOT speak this same thing CHRIST put into GOD’S CHURCH.  

WHY DOES GOD COMMAND US TO ACTUALLY SHUN A DISFELLOWSHIPPED MEMBER? WHY DOES GOD WANT US — COMMAND US! — to mark and avoid those who come with a different doctrine? Because they created DIVISION among God’s people! “And” (Rom. 16:18) “by good words and fair speeches” they DECEIVE those who listen — they claim to serve God — but they DO NOT AGREE with God.  

One of my son’s “fair speeches” intended to deceive and draw away members tries to turn the very command of God, that we must all speak the same thing, into an accusation that I am using MIND CONTROL over our members.  

So he sends out a “fair speech” in writing, attempting to associate God’s Church with the Jim Jones Guyana cult. He says: “For too many years” (when he was in God’s Church) “I tried with all my being to encourage our brethren to think for themselves.” In other words, to QUESTION and doubt the validity of the doctrines CHRIST had put in the Church. He continues, “The demoniac preacher Jim Jones used extreme forms of total dictatorial control over his followers.” Then he spoke of “total thought control” — inferring that now, all of a sudden, I am another “Jim Jones” and exercising “total thought control” over you members.  

He says that when I say, with I Corinthians 1:10, that we “all speak the same thing,” I am using mind control over you, and he sends out letters and booklets EMPHASIZING that HE DOES NOT AGREE WITH OR PREACH THE SAME THING as his father. Thus he not only breaks God’s Fifth Commandment by dishonoring his father, but he seeks to misrepresent and pull over a following for himself (Acts 20:30).  


God does command that we ,all “speak the same thing” (I Cor. 1:10). But now we need to ask HOW that can be done. HOW, without mind control, has God provided that we may all come to speak the same thing?  

TRUE doctrines were revealed  

After God inspired Paul to command that we must all speak the same doctrines, HOW does Paul say we all come to that sameness of doctrine and belief?  

First, he shows WHY all did not speak the same teachings. He said some looked to Peter, some to Cephas, some to Apollos, some to Paul. In other words, they were all looking to MEN — and not all to the same man.  

Coming to chapter 2, Paul says he did not come to them with clever and enticing words. Then he said the TRUE DOCTRINES were REVEALED, and that the natural carnal mind could not understand. Paul had the truth because, 1) he had really repented when God struck him down temporarily blind and spoke to him. Then later, 2) he explained he had been with and had seen Christ. His teaching came directly from Jesus Christ. So had Peter’s!  

But Paul shows, I Corinthians 2:7-14, that NO ONE can come into the truth with a natural carnal mind. It requires the receiving of the Holy Spirit of God. As God said through Paul another time, “Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus” (Phil. 2:5).  

No one will ever come to understand the TRUTH except by receiving the Holy Spirit. But EVEN SO, all these Corinthians were supposed to have received the Holy Spirit— YET THEY BELIEVED DIFFERENT THINGS, because they followed different men!  

God put His TRUE DOCTRINES into His Church through His apostles BY THEIR WRITINGS. Jesus is the Word of God in PERSON! The Bible is the Word of God IN PRINT!  

Today, Christ has put the TRUE DOCTRINES into God’s Church through the apostle whom HE chose – not elected by men!  

How doctrines are revealed  

In our case, the 20th-century “time of the end,” how did God put His doctrines, beliefs and teachings into the Church?  

Answer: By His chosen apostle, just as all doctrines, teachings and practices were put into the Church in A.D. 31 by Christ and the apostles — who, with the prophets, form the FOUNDATION of the Church.  

Jesus specially prepared me for this purpose, just as He specially prepared the apostles of the first century. He brought me to see that what I had been taught in a Protestant church was false — the opposite of the Bible. Jesus Christ is the Word of God IN PERSON. The Bible is the Word of God IN WRITING.  

The living Christ brought me to two severe challenges, which forced me to see I had been wrong. He swept my mind clean of all previous beliefs and doctrines and taught me His doctrines and beliefs.  

Still, as was Peter and Paul — and Moses, Elijah, David and Daniel — I am human and could make a mistake.  

BUT, if you have proved that this is, indeed, God’s true Church for this present time, then you MUST BELIEVE that if and when I make a mistake, the LIVING CHRIST will correct me! Indeed HE HAS DONE so!  

Now to the very CRUX of the question of HOW we must all come to believe and speak the SAME THING!  

Christ put His doctrines in God’s Church in A.D. 31 through the apostles HE had chosen and taught. In our time, now, the same living Christ called, prepared and chose me as His servant to put His doctrines into God’s Church today!  

Christ’s responsibility to set Church right  

If I make a mistake, it is CHRIST’S responsibility to set me straight! But DO YOU BELIEVE CHRIST IS STILL ALIVE AND WILL DO IT? Or, if you think our Church doctrines are wrong on some point, do you think it is YOUR responsibility to set the Church right?  

Back in the earlier years of the present decade, some wanted a doctrinal committee to question all we believed — and in truth it gravitated into an effort to TRY by inductive reasoning and research to prove Christ’s doctrines in the Church are in error!  

Since that time, Christ has led me to see our doctrine and teaching on two subjects were indeed in error. Yet NONE of the arguments of the “intellectual liberals” were valid. God opened my eyes to see the error from an entirely different approach and viewpoint than the “scholars” had presented.  

One of these was fixing the day of Pentecost. Every known translation of the Bible, in 1927 when I first studied and set the date, translated into English, said, count the 50 days FROM a specific Sunday. One day FROM Sunday is Monday, and 50 days FROM a Sunday is a Monday. For 40 years God’s true Church observed this Festival one day late.  

Finally I found, on evidence from Jewish Old Testament teachers and from two of the translators of the Revised Standard Version, that FROM was a mistranslation. It should have been translated ON or, count beginning on a Sunday. I had not made the original mistake — the translators had. But I IMMEDIATELY changed it upon PROOF.  

The other major doctrinal change made is one that needs a deal of up-DATING! It concerned “divorce and re-marriage.” All the arguments of the “scholarly” liberals on this subject were false. Again I think it fair to say the real error was due to translating.  

This caused me, and the many with whom I counsel on such questions, to pass over a verse in I Corinthians 7, without recognizing its real meaning.  

Now suppose a member thinks he or she has found an error in our doctrines. How must you proceed? IF you have found truth, we all want to know and embrace it! But how MUST you proceed? NEVER by trying to convince another member of your “finding,” lest you fall guilty of Romans 16:17-18.  

WHAT, then?  

Take it to your local minister or write to headquarters. What must a local pastor do? Send it to headquarters. If it is felt to be a valid truth, it will be brought to me personally, and the LIVING CHRIST will make it clear to my mind!  

We have covered the question of how does the living Christ put His doct rines into the Church. But the Church is made up of many members. How does each member come to understand each doctrine?  

How Christ put His Church back on track  

Now let us pull together all that has gone before.  

 We have to admit that at this time a year ago, those in God’s Church were NOT all speaking the SAME THING. And we were DIVIDED!  

 The living Christ, Head of the Church, began to move swiftly to correct this evil in our midst. The spearhead of the liberal movement was my own son, Garner Ted, because he was wielding executive vice presidential AUTHORITY — AND MORE — for his whole attitude and approach was that of making himself chief top authority. However, he was under the influence of a small group of “intellectuals” who used him.  

 Christ has been moving swiftly to set the Church doctrines back on track, through articles in The Worldwide News and The Good News.  

 The ministry and pastoral direction is fast being put back on God’s track. This of necessity means that I, personally, am going to suffer abuse and persecution and false rumors from a few ex-ministers. But I must be concerned with PLEASING God, not man.  

Now we have to ask, HOW did this division and doctrinal disagreement get its ugly head inside the Church, and HOW safeguard the Church from any further Trojan-horse invasions?  

I have said through the years, over the air and in print and before audiences, “Don’t believe me because I say it — look in your own Bible and believe what you find there!”  

But I DO NOT — or, at least, SHOULD NOT HAVE ever said that to our own brethren! But my son writes: “I tried with all my being to encourage our brethren to think for themselves.” In other words don’t believe our deep-rooted Church teachings — think out NEW, DIFFERENT beliefs for yourself!  

But GOD’S WAY is THIS! This is the way the original first-century apostles preached. They spoke the TRUTH with POWER! To the unconverted Thessalonians, the Bereans were complimented for checking up on Paul’s preaching (Acts 17:11). But none should be accepted IN THE CHURCH until that person either has come to KNOW and accept and believe Christ’s true doctrine, OR has repented so THOROUGHLY, CONQUERED BY GOD and with an attitude of a little child, so that the minister doing the baptising feels sure he or she will accept and believe fully Christ’s true doctrines in His Church.  

In other words, Christ commands that we all speak the same thing. THAT BECOMES A QUALIFICATION FOR MEMBERSHIP!  

Yet I must add one comment concerning the above paragraph. Paul shows in I Corinthians 2 that the carnal unconverted mind cannot comprehend and come to real understanding of spiritual knowledge. There is no PROMISE in the Bible that one will receive the Holy Spirit prior to baptism (though Cornelius and his house did).  

In Matthew 28:19-20, in the great commission, Jesus mentioned “teaching them to observe … [commandments],” after mentioning baptism.  

That is why I myself have baptized some prior to coming into full doctrinal teaching, but these were cases where I felt sure they were so completely surrendered to Christ that they would — as in fact they did — accept doctrinal teaching.  

I said at the ministers’ conference that I feel we have been too lax in baptising people before they were completely REPENTANT and FULLY BELIEVED Christ and what He says in the Bible.  

Once in the Church, WE MUST ALL SPEAK THE SAME THING! I have covered earlier in this “Personal” how a member should proceed who thinks he has found where the Church is in error on a doctrine, or where he thinks he has discovered “new light” the Church does not yet have. It must be cleared finally by Christ’s apostle.  


The Worldwide Church of God- BEING MEASURED

The Worldwide Church of God is an UN-incorporated spiritual organism, made up of those who have been CALLED by God, and have RECEIVED the Holy Spirit of God through REPENTANCE, BELIEF OF THE GOSPEL and BAPTISM.
Over this Church is a spiritual “plum-line”, and God our Master builder is MEASURING THE CHURCH OF GOD, the SPIRITUAL TEMPLE OF CHRIST to see what belongs and what doesn’t! Inferior materials will be discarded, but the precious materials of the Temple who are FITLY JOINED with the foundation and cornerstone, will remain.
The Philadelphia Era of God’s Church(Rev.3:7-13) was raised up through Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong, a.k.a “The Worldwide Church of God”.
The Worldwide Church of God was the only Church of God Mr. Armstrong was a member of.
Now, Mr. Armstrong was raised up as an APOSTLE of Jesus Christ, and those of the Worldwide Church of God were placed under him. The membership of the Worldwide Church of God is the “seal” of Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong’s apostleship, as the Church under the apostle Paul was his(1 Corinthians 9:2).
Those of the true body of Christ are doing exactly what is described by the early members of the Church in Acts 2!
“And they continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship…”(Acts 2:42) “And all that believed were together…”(Acts 2:44) NOT DIVIDED INTO A BUNCH OF BICKERING SECTS AND DENOMINATIONS!
In 1 Corinthians 12:28-30, and Ephesians 4:11-16, we are told that the entire body of Christ, the true Church of God, are COMPACTED TOGETHER, FITLY JOINED, with the apostles FIRST, under Jesus Christ our head!
If a man claims to be a minister of Jesus Christ, yet is not FITLY JOINED with Christ through the apostle, THEN THEY DO NOT QUALIFY TO BE A MINISTER OF JESUS CHRIST!
If they are off teaching something DIFFERENT, telling you the opposite of what the true apostle taught, then their head is not Jesus Christ, but Satan the Devil MASQUERADING as Christ- the “another Jesus” that the apostle Paul warned of!(2 Corinthians 11:4)
The very purpose of the corporate organizations under Mr. Armstrong, was to enable the apostle to do the Work of God given to him by Christ, with the Church BACKING and SUPPORTING THE APOSTLE!
The very reason that Mr. Armstrong on the World Tomorrow programs was introduced by “The Worldwide Church of God”, and at the end of the program “sponsored by the Worldwide Church of God” was due to the fact the UN-incorporated Worldwide Church of God was supporting the apostle by sending God’s tithes and offerings to Mr. Armstrong to make such programs possible!
After Mr. Armstrong’s death, other men took control of the corporate entities, and those of the true Church continued with the apostle’s doctrines. Those who DID NOT, were not the true Church and they NO LONGER CONTINUED IN WHAT WAS TAUGHT!
Now some ministers took some of the teachings they were taught from Mr. Armstrong, and made themselves a new organization. And in order to set themselves up in a role or seat of authority, they had to depart slightly(at least) on what Christ had given them through the apostle.
Raymond McNair, an evangelist under Mr. Armstrong, when he started his organization “CHURCH OF GOD 21st CENTURY”, closed it down soon after, because he came to realize he was WRONG and in SIN AGAINST GOD for starting it up! He had gotten OFF THE TRACK! He was not the man chosen by God to lead the Church, he said! And so he closed the doors on his organization. What a man of God! He REPENTED, and soon after he died, his eternal crown and salvation secured.
So these new organizations were set up by ministers, to do a work “their way”. And in “their way”, they have chosen from the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil, rejecting GOD’S WAY OF LIFE and rejecting God’s supreme RULE over them!
If they were to come to realize their sins against God, as Mr. McNair did, they would have to GIVE UP their work, and REPENT, and get back to teaching EXACTLY what Mr. Armstrong taught, back to doing their part in the Work of God!(John 6:29)
As a branch may retain “nutrients” given to it from the mother tree, but while broken off, eventually withering and dying, so are those who have left(or was broken off from) the body of Christ to do their “own work”!
Their works are DEAD or DYING WORKS. They may resemble the mother tree, with certain features prominent, they may even claim “they hold fast to the foundational doctrines” but the fact remains, if they are NOT faithfully teaching ALL of what Christ gave through His apostle, then they are not apart of the body of Christ, and they will die out spiritually if not repented of!
A tiny step away from the building, is still a step AWAY from the building, therefore you are no longer INSIDE the building!
So the Worldwide Church of God remains. Those who have been called by God, are continuing faithfully, and stedfastly in what was taught them from Christ through Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong. They are obeying Christ in Rev. 3:11.
There has been a GREAT FALLING AWAY(2 Thes. 2) from God’s Truth. This is still going on. Satan is causing those he deceives into thinking and calling what God says is good and honorable, evil and a thing to despise.
Those who once filled offices and roles within the true Church of God, are no longer there! They went out to form their own churches, or join a church they chose, to do their own work!
“They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us[the apostles]: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.”(1 John 2:19)
But those of the Church who stay faithful, are STILL THERE under Christ, continuing with the apostles of Christ!
Some of our brethren have been deceived, and caught up in the traps of Satan!
THEY NEED TO REPENT QUICKLY, and “deliver themselves”(Zech 2:7) from such group and churches!
The true Church of God has always been persecuted for doing this!
The Worldwide Church of God is going through a purification.
Jesus Christ is still ruling the Worldwide Church of God.
We need to get “back on the track” today, before it is TOO LATE!

Does God Have A Headquarters Church Today?

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Does GOD Have a Headquarters Church Today?

Where is the central church of divine authority to which scattered members and local churches should look for TRUE DOCTRINE or to settle disputed points?


By Herman Hoeh

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INCREASING numbers are now being added by God to His Church. The establishment of local congregations is steadily increasing. God’s church is growing. Continue reading…

OPINION: S.T.P Implemeted in modern "Church of God" organizations.

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The Systematic Theology Project, or S.T.P that slipped it’s way into the hands of the ministers of the Worldwide Church of God during the 1970’s is being implemented into modern churches!
[NOTE: this is ANTI-STP not PRO-STP] A look into the modern “Church of God” organizations will shock older members of the Worldwide Church of God members!
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I said to my wife, 52 years ago, “All these churches can’t be wrong. That’s how I know the Bible says ‘Thou shalt observe Sunday’”

But on intensive, indepth study of the bible, I found all “these churches“ were wrong, and that they did not obtain their beliefs from God’s word, but rather that they believed doctrines and practiced customs that are contrary to biblical teaching.

I wanted to find God’s teachings, doctrines, customs and practices. I found them! I found them in the same way the Apostle Paul did. Continue reading…

A WORLD HELD CAPTIVE by Herbert W. Armstrong

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You live in a world of awesome progress, but paradoxically, of appalling evils. WHY? It’s a world held captive, deceived into loving its captivity. Deliverance from kidnap in deception, human discontent, suffering and death hastens nearer. World peace, happiness and joy are just around the corner.
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< ![CDATA[Mr. Armstrong wrote in his May 2, 1974 Brethren letter: “Now notice I Corinthians 12:  In this chapter God is showing that in THE WORK of the Church — proclaiming the Gospel to the world, and feeding the flock, there are different ADMINISTRATIONS, different OPERATIONS, in the Church, and for these, God has given various spiritual GIFTS, or empowerments, by His Holy Spirit.
ADMINISTRATORS refer to performance of executive duties, MANAGERIAL responsibilities, rather than policy-making.”
He continues, “The ADMINISTRATIONS in the Church refers to executive performance and managerial responsibilities, NOT to policy-making. In other words, adapting the method of functioning, according to the PRINCIPLE which GOD (the Policy Maker and Law Giver), not we, has laid down.”
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