Gerald Weston

The Living Church of God vs. The Worldwide Church of God

Before We go into the different teachings and doctrine that the Living Church of God teach concerning many of the DOCTRINES we have learned. Everyone needs to take half an hour and listen to this, it is VITAL!




*June 17, 2010 – The Gospel of Matthew – Program 18*

“Matt. 16:19

“And I will give you [He told Peter.] the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”

This is a rabbinical phrase meaning that Peter is the leader of the Apostles. Later, as we will see in chapter 18, authority is extended to all the Apostles to make binding and loosing decisions. That is, they could apply the Law of God to various situations and make a decision as to how to carry out its principles. They were not to make new laws. They were not to change God’s Laws, but they were able to make binding and loosing decisions in the Church of God. That was proper, as long as they stuck with God’s Laws, which many in the false church that developed did not do. “

*June 17,2010 – The Gospel of Matthew – Program 20*

“Matt. 18:18

“Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”

Most people do not understand this at all. It is not taught. This is another Hebrew idiom; the rabbis were guided by God, apparently, to make binding and loosing decisions. At least they had that right. They often made wrong decisions, but they were to make decisions based on God’s Law. They were not to introduce new laws. They were to make binding decisions based on the Law-applying the principle of God’s Law to a particular situation. So Christ told them to do that. He said: “Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven.”

Matt. 18:19-20

“Again I say to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask [You see, in this kind of context, in a judicial context, making a binding decision.], it will be done for them by My Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered together in My name [In Christ’s authority to make this kind of decision.], I am there in the midst of them.”

You may ask: “How could that be?” If they were Christians, judging according to God’s will-in most cases, this would be ministers trying to make a binding and losing decision-God would back it up just like He did in the Old Testament because, as it tells us in Hebrews 13:8: “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever.”

If you have your Bible handy, turn with me back to 2 Chronicles 19:4. It describes Jehoshaphat-a very righteous and God-fearing king. Jehoshaphat appointed judges in the land, throughout fortified cities of Judah, city by city. Verse 6 states: “And said to the judges, ‘Take heed to what you are doing, for you do not judge for man but for the LORD, who is with you in the judgment.'” If God was going to be with them in the judgment back in carnal Israel, how much more would God be with them in the New Testament Church of God, if they were faithful men trying sincerely to carry out God’s will-God’s judgment-in a particular situation. That is an important principle to understand. “

*LCN: July-August 2007*

Editorial – By Roderick C. Meredith

“So it is vital for the unity in God’s Church and for our training as future kings and priests that we all learn now to genuinely trust Christ to guide His Church in all these matters.

It is the responsibility of the ministry to make “binding and loosing” decisions regarding divorce and remarriage problems, how to apply God’s statutes in today’s society regarding first, second and third tithe administration, and other such matters important to His Church.”


*Truth given through Mr. Armstrong*


*Worldwide News – November 1978 – “HOW CHRIST GIVES THE CHURCH ITS BELIEFS” By Herbert W Armstrong*

There has been much discussion at Pasadena between certain ministers of lower than apostle rank, as to the CHURCH binding and loosing.

So now let it be MADE OFFICIAL – by Christ’s present day apostle – that this binding and loosing PLAINLY, CLEARLY was given to Christ’s chief APOSTLE – not to lower rank ministers ordained by his authority – not by the CHURCH as a body – but by the APOSTLE!”

*Worldwide News – February 1979 – “And Now Christ Sets Church Back On Track Doctrinally” by Herbert W Armstrong*

Matthew 10:2 “Now the names of the twelve apostles are these. The first, Simon, who is called PETER…” Notice PETER is called the first.

Matthew 16:16-19 “… Simon PETER answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hat not revealed it unto thee but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee (PETER), That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church;… and I will give unto thee (PETER) the keys of the kingdom of heaven and whatsoever thou (PETER) shalt bind o earth shall be bound in heaven and whatsoever thou (PETER) shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”  

In Matthew 18 Jesus appears to be speaking to the 12 as a group, and in verse 18 the binding and the loosing is again mentioned. The binding and loosing was given to APOSTLES but PETER was unquestioned leader of the original 12 apostles.”

*Good News – October 1979 – “How Did You Come to Know the Truth” By Herbert W Armstrong*

“And that brings me to the main purpose of writing this letter. “Three or four months ago I was intensively studying your article on “How Christ Gives the Church Its Beliefs,” which appeared in’ the November 20th, 1978. Good News. I memorized its main points, and thoroughly marked up my Bible – especially at Matthew 16:18, on the subject of binding and loosing.

“I was then staggered – left literally speechless – when I read an article in the March, 1979. Good News, which, in my eyes at least, just plainly CONTRADICTS what Christ is saying through you! Whereas Christ teaches, through you, that binding and loosing is given only to His apostles, the author of this particular article states that the ministry have the authority to make binding and loosing decisions.”  

Let me add here that the particular article in question was a “REPEAT” article, which had appeared several years ago in The Good News. At that time no official doctrine had been made in the Church about “binding and loosing.” I did not reread the article prior to republication in the March, 1979; Good News, and I am sure the author of the article did not recheck it, either. I made the doctrine of “binding and loosing” official only a few months ago. I do not remember catching anything in this article that should have been edited when it first appeared several years ago. So I will personally assume any blame for this discrepancy.”

*Note* – The Article this woman was referring to was by Roderick Meredith in his article in the March 1979 Good News titled “Should You Help the Underdog?”


*#2 Jesus Christ to comes FOR the Bride, goes to heaven, and then coming back WITH the Bride*


You can read their explanation in Richard Ames’s article in the Living Church News titled “The Saints Will Stand Before God’s Throne In Heaven

He also gives the same material in his sermon titled the same as the article here –  

*Teaching through Mr. Armstrong*

*Prophecy – Nuclear Warfare – August 10, 1984 SERMON by Herbert W Armstrong*

And the churches of this world just don’t understand it. Now that time of great trouble is what is known as the Great Tribulation. And churches all over talk about the — protestant churches — talk about the Great Tribulation, and they think the Great Tribulation is a curse sent by God. They don’t understand it, and they say the church will be raptured up before the Great Tribulation, that the church won’t be in it, the church will go up to heaven. 

And they have a pretty way of saying it that Christ will first come for His bride and take her up to heaven, that is the church, and they think they are all going to go to heaven. And then after the Great Tribulation, some think that will be one year, some think it’ll be three and a half years, some think it will be seven years, and Seventh Day Adventists think it will be one thousand years, and then He comes back with His bride after they’ve been in heaven. 

I don’t know why they want to come back to this terrible earth after they’ve been in heaven all this time, but apparently that’s the way they teach. “[End Quote]

  I have also found a sermon transcript from someone who didn’t agree with it since it went against the Bible and what Mr. Armstrong taught. This can be found here. I do not have the speaker nor the date.    


  He also teaches that it is OKAY to wear makeup if worn modestly. Mr. Armstrong taught that it was *SIN*!!  

*LCG teaching on Makeup*

*NOTE* the reasoning he used was also the reasoning FOR the *PAGAN CROSS*!!

  Take a quick search through the archives and you’ll see several articles and booklets on the subject. It is Clear, Makeup is SIN.  

*#4 The King of the South*

What Did Herbert W Armstrong teach on the King of the South?


*#5 That this is the Laodicean Era of God’s Church*


LCG Teaching

*Page 2 – Illumination – Fall 2015 – Living University(LCG college) *

“However, we live in a Laodicean era where the “days are evil,” and in Satan’s society that is designed to monopolize and consume as much of our precious time as possible. “

Living University – Church History Lesson 07 – The Church Today – The Laodicean Era

*Living Church News – November/December 2009 – Seven Eras, Seven Attitudes by Richard Ames*

We are living in the Laodicean era


*Living Church News – July/August 2017 – Why the Living Church of God by Mike DeSimone*

Dr. Meredith frequently told us, “We are the Church of God in the Laodicean era, trying to do a Philadelphian Work.””  

*Living Church News – March/April 2009 – Editorial – Go “All Out” to Serve Your Creator!” by Roderick Meredith*

During this Laodicean era, God specifically warns us all: “I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot.”


*Where is God’s True Church Today booklet by Roderick Meredith*

Today, we are clearly in the Laodicean era, which Christ condemns for being “lukewarm” even though it has most of the Truth.”


*Teaching through Mr. Armstrong*

What Did Herbert W Armstrong teach on the Laodicean Era?

*#6 Branches Churches of God*


LCG Teaching

*Where is God’s True Church Today booklet by Roderick Meredith*

“It is important to note that while God’s true Church is one spiritual organism, the Bible shows that it is normal for the Church to exist in several different corporate “fellowships” or “branches” at the same time. In chapters 2 and 3 of Revelation, Christ reveals the characteristics of the seven ages or “eras” of God’s true Church. “


*Living Church News – July/August 2000 – “What is the Mission of God’s Church? By Douglas Winnail*

It is incredible how much confusion exists today among the various branches and fragments of the Church of God about the mission of the church.


*Living Church News – September/October 2013 – Personal Grow in Faith Through Trials! By Roderick Meredith*

Yet in the trials that we have today in the Work and in the Living Church of God and all branches of God’s Church—it may be easy to “give up” if things do not seem to be “going well” at any particular time.


*Where is God’s True Church Today? By Roderick Meredith*

To be in the body of Christ, you must be fully surrendered to God and be led by God’s Spirit: “Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His” (Romans 8:9). So each member of the true Church must be genuinely converted and led by God’s Spirit. Again, God gives the Holy Spirit “to those who obey Him” (Acts 5:32). Yet down through the ages, there have been many different Church of God fellowships—”branches” of the true Church—that sometimes coexisted. In the first century after Christ, the Apostle John wrote of seven churches in Asia Minor, which displayed attitudes that would be found throughout Church history to come, each of which would also represent the dominant attitude of the Church in successive “eras.” These different “branches” of God’s true Church were often in different parts of the world—perhaps, at times, unknown even to each other. For example, during the 12th and 13th centuries, God’s true Church existed among the Bogomils in Hungary even while those believers were unaware that a similar group of Sabbath-keepers existed simultaneously in Great Britain.  

Many in the U.S. are familiar with the Seventh Day Church of God. Over the years it underwent various “splits”—as many denominations do—and before World War II had ended up with one group headquartered in Stanberry, Missouri, and another headquartered in Salem, West Virginia. From this environment, God raised up Herbert W. Armstrong, who for many years led what became known as the Worldwide Church of God. The Worldwide Church of God became, by far, the largest group of true believers who surrendered their lives to keep the whole law of God, observe the true Sabbath, preach the Gospel of the coming Kingdom of God and use the correct name, “the Church of God.” Even during this time, however, there existed the aforementioned groups of the Seventh Day Church of God. Mr. Armstrong often acknowledged that these different fellowships were “branches” of the true Church.”


*Teaching through Mr. Armstrong*

*Worldwide News – June 24, 1985 – Recent History of the Philadelphia Era of the World by Herbert W Armstrong*

Little groups, splintering off, centered in Washington, D.C.; Eugene, Ore.; Tyler, Tex.; Monterey, Calif.; and other places with groups too small to mention. They are not bearing fruit for the Kingdom. They are not pleasing God or being blessed by Him. Jesus said, “By their fruits you shall know them.” They usually claim to be “branches” of the Church of God. But Jesus said, “I will build my church” (Matthew 16:18). He did not say denominations, sects, cults, branches or a church divided against itself. Rather He said a house divided against itself cannot stand. There is one true Church and one only. The apostle Paul pictured humanly self-appointed “branches” when he said to the elders of the local church at Ephesus that some of their own selves would depart to draw a following after themselves.  

Paul said, “But now are they many members, yet but one body” (I Corinthians 12:20). How was that one body organized? Did it have one government? “And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues” (verse 28). Verse 25 shows there should be no divisions in the body — no branches or branch organizations.  

The Church is “built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief corner stone; in Whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy Temple in the Lord”(Ephesians 2:20-21). Note, the Church is organized and fitly framed together, not organized with competing and differing branches.”

*Unity Sermon – February 4, 1984 by Herbert W Armstrong*

Ephesians 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: (16) From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted [just as if it’s welded together — the one body, not two bodies. Not different branches, not different sects and denominations — one a Methodist, one a Baptist, one a Presbyterian, one a Congregationalist, one a Church of Christ, another a Church of England, and so on.”[End Quote]

Read the Whole article *“IS GOD’S CHURCH COMPOSED OF MANY SEPARATE ‘GROUPS’? By Herbert W Armstrong – Good News (and Worldwide News) December 18, 1978”*


*Success Based On God’s Law (Origins) Sermon – July 30, 1983 by Herbert W Armstrong*

 Christ is the Vine. We are each individually the branches. But we have to bear fruit, or we are going to be cut off; and that is our doing.”

Now there’s another thing. Here one says, well, you see the churches are like Christ said about the Vine. There are many branches. So there are many churches. There’s a Baptist church, a Presbyterian, and this and that. And one, who left this Church and started another church of his own, said he’s one of the branches — that there are many churches, not just one Church.

But they are all joined onto the Vine, and that’s speaking of individuals; and there are individual Churches, but they are all joined onto the Vine. Now there’s a Church here. There’s one that met this morning in this same place. There’s another one meeting this afternoon over in the Imperial Gym, I guess it is. We’ve had Churches today meeting today in Boston, where I expect to speak next Sabbath. You know, they’re all branches too. But we’re joined together! And we are joined in, and through, and by Christ — together. “

And, by the way, if you look at the telecast tomorrow morning, I wonder are you indifferent — thinking “Well I don’t need to look at it”? Well, brethren, it’s money that you pay in. Of course, it’s God’s money. But that’s what’s paying for it, and each one of those telecasts tomorrow (The one tomorrow morning on Channel 11, and the one tomorrow evening on Channel 9.), each one of those just for that one-half hour is costing several thousand dollars. Did you know that? But they reach a lot of people; and telephone calls come in by the hundreds and the thousands as a result immediately, from people clear outside of the Church.

But that’s part of your work. I just happen to be the speaker. But you notice that it says, “This is sponsored by the Worldwide Church of God.” Not by me. I don’t sponsor it. You are all the Worldwide Church of God. The Worldwide Church of God is all of us combined, put together. And we’re ONE BODY fitly framed and joined together whether we are in Australia, New Zealand, Canada, the Philippines, South Africa, England, Germany, or where — ONE BODY, many offices, many things to do; but one body. So let’s understand that.”





By Herbert W. Armstrong

[Worldwide News, 25th Feb 1980]

    IS GOD HARSH? Does call on us to mistreat those disfellowshipped for sowing the seeds of discord in God’s Church?   NOT AT ALL! Let us UNDERSTAND THIS!   Do we expect Jesus Christ to have friendly fellowship with SATAN? Do you think Christ is unjust in not treating Satan with what you might call LOVE?   WHY – yes WHY do some of our brethren feel we are unkind toward those doing Satan’s bidding, if we OBEY Christ’s following COMMANDMENTS?   God says, through the apostle Paul, “Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which you have learned, and AVOID THEM”. (Romans 16:17)   Many of you brethren have deliberately DISOBEYED that commandment of God by attending “out of curiosity,” a meeting of one disfellowshipped for that very thing! ARE YOU MORE RIGHTEOUS THAN GOD? ARE YOU ABOVE GOD, so that you need not heed what he says in the above paragraph?   You are going soon, to be called before the judgment seat of JESUS CHRIST. Will you say to His Majesty, “But Lord, I only wanted to hear what he had to say!” WHAT DO YOU THINK THE JUDGE OF ALL THE EARTH WILL SAY BACK TO YOU, who make excuse for DISOBEYING his positive COMMAND?   Let’s UNDERSTAND this! What doctrine have you learned? Where did you learn the doctrine? Answer? In or through the WORLDWIDE CHURCH OF GOD! How did the Church receive its doctrine – its beliefs – its teachings – when the Church first started, A.D. 31? The Church from the start received its doctrine from the APOSTLES!   Jesus is the personal Word of God. The Bible is the written word of God. Both are the same!   In our day, Jesus Christ taught His chosen apostle through the written Word of God. The Worldwide Church of God – the same Church as founded in A.D. 31 – received its DOCTRINE through God’s chosen Apostles!   Now back to Romans 16:17. Why have some leaders had to be disfellowshipped – MARKED? Because of causing divisions and offenses CONTRARY to the doctrine which you have learned!   God’s Church is UNITED. We are commanded (I Corinthians 1:10) that we must ALL SPEAK THE SAME THING! Those put out were splitting the Church speaking DIFFERENT THINGS!   Now notice the next verse: “For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.” (Romans 16:18)   And some of YOU brethren have wanted to hear those good words and fair speeches coming from persons of charisma, even though YOU WERE DISOBEYING GOD!   Notice FURTHER THE COMMANDS OF GOD!   God’s message through Paul, “Now we COMMAND YOU, brethren in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly… And if by any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed” (II Thessalonians 3:6,14)   Those ministers who have gone out, or been put out, of the Worldwide Church of God, often come to your town or city to speak. Many of them come to you in the form of a tape or cassettes, to preach their perverted doctrine, or to try to turn you AGAINST God’s Church – even as they are AGAINST it! They do NOT come to you with the doctrine which JESUS CHRIST put into His one and only Church. WHAT DOES GOD COMMAND YOU? LISTEN, and OBEY!   “If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed” (II John 10)   In the very beginning of the Church of God, in the first century, there were false apostles, and there were those who went out from the Church for selfish gain or for revenge – even as today.   The apostle Paul, speaking to the elders – the ministers – of the Church at Ephesus, said, “Also of your own selves [you MINISTERS] shall men arise speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.” (Acts 20:30)   To the church at Corinth, Paul wrote: “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which you have not accepted…(II Corinthians 11:4) Now WHO was trying to turn these members of God’s Church to some watered down doctrine or other teaching? Paul says they were men serving SATAN, and therefore SATAN’S MINISTERS! Notice, same chapter, “For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into” [that is, professing to be] apostles of Christ. And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers [actually SATAN’S ministers, perhaps even themselves deceived into believing they are serving Christ] “also be transformed into the ministers of righteousness” (verses 13-15)   Brethren, STUDY THAT! If Paul had said to one of those ministers opposing God’s true Church, “You are a minister of SATAN,” he would have sharply said back, “I am not a minister of Satan, you are falsely accusing me!”   What about these minister who have gone out – or been PUT OUT – from the Worldwide Church of God today? They would be INDIGNANT if I should call them ministers of Satan. They would be ANGRY! They would say, as one was publicly quoted “I let go of coattails, and clasped the hand of Christ!”   Yes, they LOUDLY and indignantly say “SATAN COULD NEVER DECEIVE ME!” But Satan has deceived the whole world! He had deceived ALL OF US – but thankfully God called some of us, opened our minds to our former ways following Satan and brought us to HIM!   Perhaps these ministers now opposing God’s TRUTH and HIS CHURCH are themselves now deceived. Perhaps they are sincere – BUT THEY ARE SINCERELY WRONG AND IN THE CLUTCH OF SATAN!   Well then, you may say, “Should we not show them KINDNESS and LOVE?” Well, should Christ himself show kindness and love toward Satan?   These people, even if sincere and deceived, are in SATAN’S service doing what SATAN WANTS DONE – helping Satan try to DESTROY God’s one and only TRUE CHURCH!   Let’s not REASON our way to DISOBEY GOD! God COMMANDS “AVOID THEM!” “AVOID THEM” does not mean to go hear them out of curiosity! You who do that are DISOBEYING GOD. You are trying to be more righteous than GOD!   Now brethren, we have not wanted to act harshly. If we follow God’s instructions strictly we should DISFELLOWSHIP and MARK you who go to hear these ministers, or listen to their tapes or cassettes. PLEASE DO NOT MAKE US DO THAT BY YOUR CONTINUED DISOBEDIENCE and continued going to hear them or hear their recorded messages which are AGAINST Christ’s CHURCH, and therefore AGAINST CHRIST! But there is GOVERNMENT in God’s CHURCH. Just as there shall be GOVERNMENT in the Kingdom of God. It is the same government now in the Church – based on LOVE – but do not mistake GOD’S LOVE, and DISOBEY HIM!   Let me give you MORE that God says about these false ministers, seeking to draw disciples after them.   God says of them through Peter “Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam who loved the wages of unrighteousness. These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest, to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. While they promise them liberty [as some of these very former ministers did when they secretly prepared and distributed to the ministry the “STP”] they themselves are the servants of corruption. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world [as these former ministers did when first in God’s Church] through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. (II Peter 2:15-20)   God says of them through John: “They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have no doubt continued with us” (I John 2:19)   Through Jude GOD says: “Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core” (Jude 11) What was the gainsaying of Core? This is spelled Korah in the Old Testament. Read of it in Numbers 16. Korah led a group to challenge Moses, whom GOD had chosen to be the LEADER over Israel. For opposing the one GOD chose to lead His people, God had the earth open and swallowed them up. Yet men today oppose Christ’s chosen apostle!   There is MUCH MORE in the Bible about those who go out OPPOSING the PEOPLE OF GOD.   Brethren, if I as Christ’s apostle COMMAND YOU not to go to hear one of these or to receive one of his tape or cassette into your home, WHAT WOULD YOU THINK? Would you be angry at me? Well, that is PRECISELY WHAT GOD COMMANDS YOU. Are you angry with HIM? Some of you have been disobeying Him!   Are we a COMMANDMENT KEEPING CHURCH? If we are, then let’s OBEY. If you DON’T obey God or Jesus Christ, YOU ARE RIGHT NOW BEING JUDGED. IT IS JUST THAT SERIOUS. And it’s time we all begin to take it seriously.  

We haven’t much time left. It’s time now to COMPLETELY CLEAN UP GOD’S CHURCH, and to make His Church READY FOR CHRIST’S COMING!