False churches

GOD COMMANDS THAT WE AVOID CERTAIN ONES

 

GOD COMMANDS THAT WE AVOID CERTAIN ONES

By Herbert W. Armstrong

[Worldwide News, 25th Feb 1980]

    IS GOD HARSH? Does call on us to mistreat those disfellowshipped for sowing the seeds of discord in God’s Church?   NOT AT ALL! Let us UNDERSTAND THIS!   Do we expect Jesus Christ to have friendly fellowship with SATAN? Do you think Christ is unjust in not treating Satan with what you might call LOVE?   WHY – yes WHY do some of our brethren feel we are unkind toward those doing Satan’s bidding, if we OBEY Christ’s following COMMANDMENTS?   God says, through the apostle Paul, “Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which you have learned, and AVOID THEM”. (Romans 16:17)   Many of you brethren have deliberately DISOBEYED that commandment of God by attending “out of curiosity,” a meeting of one disfellowshipped for that very thing! ARE YOU MORE RIGHTEOUS THAN GOD? ARE YOU ABOVE GOD, so that you need not heed what he says in the above paragraph?   You are going soon, to be called before the judgment seat of JESUS CHRIST. Will you say to His Majesty, “But Lord, I only wanted to hear what he had to say!” WHAT DO YOU THINK THE JUDGE OF ALL THE EARTH WILL SAY BACK TO YOU, who make excuse for DISOBEYING his positive COMMAND?   Let’s UNDERSTAND this! What doctrine have you learned? Where did you learn the doctrine? Answer? In or through the WORLDWIDE CHURCH OF GOD! How did the Church receive its doctrine – its beliefs – its teachings – when the Church first started, A.D. 31? The Church from the start received its doctrine from the APOSTLES!   Jesus is the personal Word of God. The Bible is the written word of God. Both are the same!   In our day, Jesus Christ taught His chosen apostle through the written Word of God. The Worldwide Church of God – the same Church as founded in A.D. 31 – received its DOCTRINE through God’s chosen Apostles!   Now back to Romans 16:17. Why have some leaders had to be disfellowshipped – MARKED? Because of causing divisions and offenses CONTRARY to the doctrine which you have learned!   God’s Church is UNITED. We are commanded (I Corinthians 1:10) that we must ALL SPEAK THE SAME THING! Those put out were splitting the Church speaking DIFFERENT THINGS!   Now notice the next verse: “For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.” (Romans 16:18)   And some of YOU brethren have wanted to hear those good words and fair speeches coming from persons of charisma, even though YOU WERE DISOBEYING GOD!   Notice FURTHER THE COMMANDS OF GOD!   God’s message through Paul, “Now we COMMAND YOU, brethren in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly… And if by any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed” (II Thessalonians 3:6,14)   Those ministers who have gone out, or been put out, of the Worldwide Church of God, often come to your town or city to speak. Many of them come to you in the form of a tape or cassettes, to preach their perverted doctrine, or to try to turn you AGAINST God’s Church – even as they are AGAINST it! They do NOT come to you with the doctrine which JESUS CHRIST put into His one and only Church. WHAT DOES GOD COMMAND YOU? LISTEN, and OBEY!   “If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed” (II John 10)   In the very beginning of the Church of God, in the first century, there were false apostles, and there were those who went out from the Church for selfish gain or for revenge – even as today.   The apostle Paul, speaking to the elders – the ministers – of the Church at Ephesus, said, “Also of your own selves [you MINISTERS] shall men arise speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.” (Acts 20:30)   To the church at Corinth, Paul wrote: “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which you have not accepted…(II Corinthians 11:4) Now WHO was trying to turn these members of God’s Church to some watered down doctrine or other teaching? Paul says they were men serving SATAN, and therefore SATAN’S MINISTERS! Notice, same chapter, “For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into” [that is, professing to be] apostles of Christ. And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers [actually SATAN’S ministers, perhaps even themselves deceived into believing they are serving Christ] “also be transformed into the ministers of righteousness” (verses 13-15)   Brethren, STUDY THAT! If Paul had said to one of those ministers opposing God’s true Church, “You are a minister of SATAN,” he would have sharply said back, “I am not a minister of Satan, you are falsely accusing me!”   What about these minister who have gone out – or been PUT OUT – from the Worldwide Church of God today? They would be INDIGNANT if I should call them ministers of Satan. They would be ANGRY! They would say, as one was publicly quoted “I let go of coattails, and clasped the hand of Christ!”   Yes, they LOUDLY and indignantly say “SATAN COULD NEVER DECEIVE ME!” But Satan has deceived the whole world! He had deceived ALL OF US – but thankfully God called some of us, opened our minds to our former ways following Satan and brought us to HIM!   Perhaps these ministers now opposing God’s TRUTH and HIS CHURCH are themselves now deceived. Perhaps they are sincere – BUT THEY ARE SINCERELY WRONG AND IN THE CLUTCH OF SATAN!   Well then, you may say, “Should we not show them KINDNESS and LOVE?” Well, should Christ himself show kindness and love toward Satan?   These people, even if sincere and deceived, are in SATAN’S service doing what SATAN WANTS DONE – helping Satan try to DESTROY God’s one and only TRUE CHURCH!   Let’s not REASON our way to DISOBEY GOD! God COMMANDS “AVOID THEM!” “AVOID THEM” does not mean to go hear them out of curiosity! You who do that are DISOBEYING GOD. You are trying to be more righteous than GOD!   Now brethren, we have not wanted to act harshly. If we follow God’s instructions strictly we should DISFELLOWSHIP and MARK you who go to hear these ministers, or listen to their tapes or cassettes. PLEASE DO NOT MAKE US DO THAT BY YOUR CONTINUED DISOBEDIENCE and continued going to hear them or hear their recorded messages which are AGAINST Christ’s CHURCH, and therefore AGAINST CHRIST! But there is GOVERNMENT in God’s CHURCH. Just as there shall be GOVERNMENT in the Kingdom of God. It is the same government now in the Church – based on LOVE – but do not mistake GOD’S LOVE, and DISOBEY HIM!   Let me give you MORE that God says about these false ministers, seeking to draw disciples after them.   God says of them through Peter “Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam who loved the wages of unrighteousness. These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest, to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. While they promise them liberty [as some of these very former ministers did when they secretly prepared and distributed to the ministry the “STP”] they themselves are the servants of corruption. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world [as these former ministers did when first in God’s Church] through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. (II Peter 2:15-20)   God says of them through John: “They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have no doubt continued with us” (I John 2:19)   Through Jude GOD says: “Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core” (Jude 11) What was the gainsaying of Core? This is spelled Korah in the Old Testament. Read of it in Numbers 16. Korah led a group to challenge Moses, whom GOD had chosen to be the LEADER over Israel. For opposing the one GOD chose to lead His people, God had the earth open and swallowed them up. Yet men today oppose Christ’s chosen apostle!   There is MUCH MORE in the Bible about those who go out OPPOSING the PEOPLE OF GOD.   Brethren, if I as Christ’s apostle COMMAND YOU not to go to hear one of these or to receive one of his tape or cassette into your home, WHAT WOULD YOU THINK? Would you be angry at me? Well, that is PRECISELY WHAT GOD COMMANDS YOU. Are you angry with HIM? Some of you have been disobeying Him!   Are we a COMMANDMENT KEEPING CHURCH? If we are, then let’s OBEY. If you DON’T obey God or Jesus Christ, YOU ARE RIGHT NOW BEING JUDGED. IT IS JUST THAT SERIOUS. And it’s time we all begin to take it seriously.  

We haven’t much time left. It’s time now to COMPLETELY CLEAN UP GOD’S CHURCH, and to make His Church READY FOR CHRIST’S COMING!

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A CHALLENGE TO YOU!

  • Write down the name of the Church organization you support and attend with on a piece of paper.
  • Look that organization up in the state they incorporated, usually with a business search with the Secretary of State website.
  • What Church incorporated? Check that organizations name again. What does it say before “INC.”? There you go! That is the Church who incorporated.
  • Now, do some research concerning Herbert W. Armstrong. What Church did he belong to?
  • What Church “incorporated”  the “WORLDWIDE CHURCH OF GOD INCORPORATED”? The Worldwide Church of God, of course! Let’s not be silly about this. The Worldwide Church of God was the only Church of God Mr. Armstrong was a member of.
  • So, if the Worldwide Church of God was the Church with THOUSANDS of members, and the corporation was merely a separate organization(who only had a few members, check the incorporation papers), and NOW the Church organization you support and attend with IS A DIFFERENT CHURCH who incorporated, what are you faced with?
  • “Because here’s what we found, that the biggest trouble we had among the brethren in the Church was this question of divorce and remarriage. (Well, maybe our biggest trouble was among some of the top men at headquarters who were all playing politics and each one wanting to gain more, he was simply coveting more power. And there was a conspiracy to get rid of me and have others take over. There was a conspiracy in 1974 for a group, they had a whole group, and there were two evangelists at headquarters that were in on it. And they thought with those two evangelists, one of them in charge of the money, it’s just like the one in charge of the money that turned traitor to Jesus, you know, Judas Iscariot was in control of the money. You’ve got to look out for the man that’s in control of the money. And these men felt they could take over. Well, they didn’t and so they formed a new church and called it the Associated Church of God and about 35 ministers went out with them and went out from God’s Church. Now, I tell you you’ve got a grapevine here and Christ says, “I’m the vine and you are the branches.” And maybe there are 35 of those branches who say, well, we are going to cut off and form a new grape vine of our own. Are they still part of the vine? Are they going to still have grapes? You bet your life they won’t! No sir, I tell you if you get cut off from the Church, you’re cut off. “God is going to marry the Church. He’s not going to marry several different churches all in a hodge-podge of confusion, one believing this and another that and always disagreeing among themselves. Jesus and God the Father do not disagree. They are together and the Church as Paul said, as we read in the first chapter, when we were studying this book, that we must all speak the same thing. There must be no division. God isn’t going to marry a divided Church; He’s going to marry a Church that is one. ” Quote from Herbert W. Armstrong, 1 Corinthians 7 Bible Study
    “Then they speak out of the other side of their mouths, I am grieved to say. This time, they say Revelation 2 and 3 do NOT portray seven SUCCESSIVE stages or eras of the one true Church. Apparently they try to explain, or twist its true meaning, by saying seven is God’s number of completeness – therefore there are now MANY churches, as Roman Catholic, Methodist, Baptist, etc. – all of which COMBINED constitute the BODY OF CHRIST. Anyone who believes that had, perhaps, better get into one of them, or follow a man who has incorporated himself to be a church. But a legal corporation does not make it GOD’S CHURCH! “It might be interesting, at this point, to explain the TOTAL DIFFERENCE between what Garner Ted is now doing and what his father did in 1930. “He has incorporated under civil law, under a church name as a starter. This was done to try to draw away members from the true Church to follow him….” “…And I did not start out by incorporating myself pretending to be a church. We, in the growing Church of God – then Eugene-based – finally had grown to a size where incorporation became a necessity. IN NO WAY is Garner Ted doing as his father did, and any claim that he is, is a point-blank lie resorted to, to DECEIVE God’s people and present the REPREHENSIBLE things Garner Ted is now doing in a good light. It is Satan who tries to make us believe that wrong is right.” Quote from Herbert W. Armstrong,IS CHRIST STARTING A SECOND CHURCH?  Good News December 4, 1978
    “Actually the Worldwide Church of God is a spiritual organism, created by GOD – not a legal corporate organization created by this world’s laws. “But, in order to function IN the world in an organizational manner, the Church of God has needed to be incorporated according to state laws. The members of the Church are NOT members of the “Worldwide Church of God, Inc.,” a California corporation, nor of “Herbert W. Armstrong, a corporation sole,” under which our financial operations currently are functioning (since the massive lawsuit by the state of California). ” Quote from Herbert W. Armstrong, ADVISORY COUNCIL OF ELDERS FORMED Worldwide News – 16th May 1981
    “God has only ONE Church, and that Church has a few hundred local congregations worldwide, all a PART – and an integral working part – of the ONE spiritual organism, the Worldwide Church of God, which is “built upon the FOUNDATION of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom ALL THE BUILDING [with its many local congregations] FITLY FRAMED TOGETHER groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord.” Its whole body (with its many local congregations worldwide) “FITLY JOINED TOGETHER AND COMPACTED by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working [together]… of every part…” (Ephesians 2:20-21, 4:16) Jesus Christ does not HEAD, guide, and work in any competing man or church. Christ is NOT DIVIDED! Christ’s Body is led on earth, UNDER HIM, by His chosen apostle whom HE appointed and used in BUILDING His Church in our time. God’s TRUE Church is performing the FUNCTION of the Church – carrying Christ’s Gospel message to all the world. ” Quote from Herbert W. Armstrong, CHRIST IS THE LIVING HEAD OF ONLY ONE CHURCH – NOT TWO, Good News December 18, 1978
    “The “Philadelphia Era” born “In July, 1933, I started a six-nights-a-week series of meetings for six weeks in a 36-seat country school-house – the Jeans school – eight miles west of Eugene, Ore. Result: 11 new baptized members plus eight of us already baptized – total: 19. It was just over 100 19-year time cycles after the very first Church was founded by Jesus Christ. I had been ordained precisely, to the month, 100 time cycles after the first apostles were ordained, June, 1931. “On forming of the new little parent church, I ceased working under jurisdiction of the Oregon Conference, although I continued voluntarily as their pastor. The Worldwide Church of God was a newborn fledgling that Christ, the HEAD of the Church, was conducting solely by me, known beginning 1934 as the Radio Church of God. It became the Worldwide Church of God in 1968.” Quote from Herbert W. Armstrong, Just What Is ‘The Work’?  And what was it, and how organized, in 1933, and from A.D. 31-70? , Good News – April 1981
    “My son, still held in the bond and grip of Satan, has NOT started another Church of God. God has only ONE Church. “God calls His Church the Body of Christ. In this case the word body is used in the sense of a cohesive single GROUP – a SPIRITUAL ORGANISM. We are “the HOUSEHOLD OF GOD; And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord” (Ephesians 2:19-21). “So we are a body of Spirit-begotten people – we are a building, and we are a holy temple! And all that one body is “fitly joined together and compacted [welded] by that which every joint supplieth” (Ephesians 4:16). “But that Church body is NOT TWO churches, but only ONE! “For as the body is ONE, and hath many members…. But now are they many members, yet but ONE body” (1 Corinthians 12:12, 20). What has been started in OPPOSITION TO the ONE Church of God is merely a group, mostly of embittered dissenters, following a MAN!” Quote from Herbert W. Armstrong, How the Conspiracy Worked , Worldwide News, 26th Nov 1979
      “Now for the organizational diagram of the Worldwide Church of God (See chart, page 4.) God is the Supreme Head over all. In heaven is God, and Christ under Him as Head of the Church but under God the Father. Below we come to the earthly area. First, under Christ is His chosen apostle. Jesus said by their fruits you shall know them….” “…We have here the Church, an organized spiritual organism but unincorporated. Now this is not the corporation, or the corporation sole. This is just the Church as God has organized it. As for “The Worldwide Church of God, Inc., a California Corporation”, do you realize that most of you are not members of that corporation at all? The members are the officers that sign the corporation papers.” WORLDWIDE NEWS, SPECIAL EDITION  -March 6, 1981
    “So, once again, what and why is the Church? The Church is the called out (from this world) begotten children of God. It is the Body of Christ (I Cor. 12:27; Eph. 1:23). It is the spiritual organism that shall be the “Bride of Christ”—after its resurrection to immortality. Then it shall be married to Christ! It is the spiritual temple to which Christ shall come at his second appearing (Eph. 2:21).” Quote from Herbert W. Armstrong, Mystery of the Ages
    “The New Testament Church organized by Christ is called, 12 TIMES in the New Testament, “the CHURCH OF GOD,” some times with a modifying word or phrase, as, “the Church of God, which is at Corinth,” or the “Churches of God in Judea.” Today it is known as the Worldwide Church of God.” Quote from Herbert W. Armstrong, SEVEN PROOFS OF THE TRUE CHURCH PROOF NO. 5  -Good News – December 4, 1978
    NOW LOOK AT THE CHURCH ORGANIZATION YOU SUPPORT? That Church is NOT “The Worldwide Church of God”, but A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CHURCH! WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT ORGANIZATIONS, or CORPORATIONS! The Living Church of God & The Restored Church of God, is the product of the split of Global Church of God. Global was started IMMEDIATELY after Rod Meredith was OUT of the Worldwide Church of God. That organization was INCORPORATED FIRST, just like GTA did, to TAKE MEMBERS AWAY from the Worldwide Church of God. The United Church of God is the result of ministers leaving the Worldwide Church of God, they INCORPORATED IMMEDIATELY with a DIFFERENT CHURCH! A different Church INCORPORATED! It was not the Worldwide Church of God. They actually made a deal with Tkach Jr, who had control over the WCG INC(The corporation, NOT the Church)! They did not want to lose their paychecks when they left to incorporate a new organization. So they asked if they could continue to receive their paychecks from Tkach Jr. until their new organization could financially support them. Remember Joe Jr. talked a lot about “Church planting”! The Philadelphia Church of God was created IMMEDIATELY when Gerald Flurry and John Amos was out of the Worldwide Church of God. They tried to muscle over Tkach Sr. Gerald Flurry’s daughter Laura Turgeon(Flurry) was even a secretary of Mr. Tkach. They FIRST incorporated, and worked to draw away members for themselves. Then they tried to use Tkach Jr’s lack of interest in Mr. Armstrong’s writings to GAIN UNTO THEMSELVES “Exclusive use and rights” to them! The Court case between the PCG INC(Flurry) and WCG INC(Tkach) was a fight for “exclusive use and rights” in order to STOP the distribution of the materials you see on wwcg-archives.com. THANK GOD THEY DIDN’T! Jesus CHrist moved events, where the court stated that both parties DID NOT HAVE EXCLUSIVE USE! So the WCG and PCG settled out of court, with an agreement for the PCG to print “their versions”(their edits to the books), for a price. The PCG does not own the copyright of the originally distributed works of Herbert W. Armstrong! Their court battle was just a THEATER ACT, and BATTLE for “ownership”. None of them got it, but it did help PRESERVE what was taught, by keeping them from gaining ownership! Look at all of the COG sects, and splinter organizations. They were created by DIFFERENT CHURCHES. Really they were just MEN, claiming to be a Church before there was a Church! They had to go to modern Babylon, to incorporate calling their corporation a Church of God. They had NO FRUITS. There was NO CHURCH. Their SOLE PURPOSE was to STEAL MEMBERS AWAY from the Worldwide Church of God! THERE IS NO WAY AROUND THIS! Now, look at your piece of paper again. What Church is it? NOT THE WORLDWIDE CHURCH OF GOD! Today, while the CORPORATIONS are using the name of God’s Church, they are only CORPORATIONS and therefore NOT the same Church Herbert W. Armstrong was a member of!]]>

    Is Christ Starting a Second Church?

    Good News – December 4, 1978

    IS CHRIST STARTING A SECOND CHURCH?

    by Herbert W. Armstrong [Original Publication]

      HOW MANY CHURCHES does God have at one and the same time? The dissidents following A MAN, Garner Ted Armstrong, are now speaking out of both sides of their mouths. They KNOW that God condemns leaving God’s Church and following a MAN. So, in an effort to take members away from God’s Church, actually THREE false claims are being spread. Continue reading…