The Living Church of God vs. The Worldwide Church of God

Before We go into the different teachings and doctrine that the Living Church of God teach concerning many of the DOCTRINES we have learned. Everyone needs to take half an hour and listen to this, it is VITAL!




*June 17, 2010 – The Gospel of Matthew – Program 18*


“Matt. 16:19

“And I will give you [He told Peter.] the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”

This is a rabbinical phrase meaning that Peter is the leader of the Apostles. Later, as we will see in chapter 18, authority is extended to all the Apostles to make binding and loosing decisions. That is, they could apply the Law of God to various situations and make a decision as to how to carry out its principles. They were not to make new laws. They were not to change God’s Laws, but they were able to make binding and loosing decisions in the Church of God. That was proper, as long as they stuck with God’s Laws, which many in the false church that developed did not do. “

*June 17,2010 – The Gospel of Matthew – Program 20*


“Matt. 18:18

“Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”

Most people do not understand this at all. It is not taught. This is another Hebrew idiom; the rabbis were guided by God, apparently, to make binding and loosing decisions. At least they had that right. They often made wrong decisions, but they were to make decisions based on God’s Law. They were not to introduce new laws. They were to make binding decisions based on the Law-applying the principle of God’s Law to a particular situation. So Christ told them to do that. He said: “Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven.”

Matt. 18:19-20

“Again I say to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask [You see, in this kind of context, in a judicial context, making a binding decision.], it will be done for them by My Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered together in My name [In Christ’s authority to make this kind of decision.], I am there in the midst of them.”

You may ask: “How could that be?” If they were Christians, judging according to God’s will-in most cases, this would be ministers trying to make a binding and losing decision-God would back it up just like He did in the Old Testament because, as it tells us in Hebrews 13:8: “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever.”

If you have your Bible handy, turn with me back to 2 Chronicles 19:4. It describes Jehoshaphat-a very righteous and God-fearing king. Jehoshaphat appointed judges in the land, throughout fortified cities of Judah, city by city. Verse 6 states: “And said to the judges, ‘Take heed to what you are doing, for you do not judge for man but for the LORD, who is with you in the judgment.'” If God was going to be with them in the judgment back in carnal Israel, how much more would God be with them in the New Testament Church of God, if they were faithful men trying sincerely to carry out God’s will-God’s judgment-in a particular situation. That is an important principle to understand. “

*LCN: July-August 2007*

Editorial – By Roderick C. Meredith


“So it is vital for the unity in God’s Church and for our training as future kings and priests that we all learn now to genuinely trust Christ to guide His Church in all these matters.

It is the responsibility of the ministry to make “binding and loosing” decisions regarding divorce and remarriage problems, how to apply God’s statutes in today’s society regarding first, second and third tithe administration, and other such matters important to His Church.”


*Truth given through Mr. Armstrong*


*Worldwide News – November 1978 – “HOW CHRIST GIVES THE CHURCH ITS BELIEFS” By Herbert W Armstrong*

There has been much discussion at Pasadena between certain ministers of lower than apostle rank, as to the CHURCH binding and loosing.

So now let it be MADE OFFICIAL – by Christ’s present day apostle – that this binding and loosing PLAINLY, CLEARLY was given to Christ’s chief APOSTLE – not to lower rank ministers ordained by his authority – not by the CHURCH as a body – but by the APOSTLE!”

*Worldwide News – February 1979 – “And Now Christ Sets Church Back On Track Doctrinally” by Herbert W Armstrong*

Matthew 10:2 “Now the names of the twelve apostles are these. The first, Simon, who is called PETER…” Notice PETER is called the first.

Matthew 16:16-19 “… Simon PETER answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hat not revealed it unto thee but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee (PETER), That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church;… and I will give unto thee (PETER) the keys of the kingdom of heaven and whatsoever thou (PETER) shalt bind o earth shall be bound in heaven and whatsoever thou (PETER) shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”  

In Matthew 18 Jesus appears to be speaking to the 12 as a group, and in verse 18 the binding and the loosing is again mentioned. The binding and loosing was given to APOSTLES but PETER was unquestioned leader of the original 12 apostles.”

*Good News – October 1979 – “How Did You Come to Know the Truth” By Herbert W Armstrong*

“And that brings me to the main purpose of writing this letter. “Three or four months ago I was intensively studying your article on “How Christ Gives the Church Its Beliefs,” which appeared in’ the November 20th, 1978. Good News. I memorized its main points, and thoroughly marked up my Bible – especially at Matthew 16:18, on the subject of binding and loosing.

“I was then staggered – left literally speechless – when I read an article in the March, 1979. Good News, which, in my eyes at least, just plainly CONTRADICTS what Christ is saying through you! Whereas Christ teaches, through you, that binding and loosing is given only to His apostles, the author of this particular article states that the ministry have the authority to make binding and loosing decisions.”  

Let me add here that the particular article in question was a “REPEAT” article, which had appeared several years ago in The Good News. At that time no official doctrine had been made in the Church about “binding and loosing.” I did not reread the article prior to republication in the March, 1979; Good News, and I am sure the author of the article did not recheck it, either. I made the doctrine of “binding and loosing” official only a few months ago. I do not remember catching anything in this article that should have been edited when it first appeared several years ago. So I will personally assume any blame for this discrepancy.”

*Note* – The Article this woman was referring to was by Roderick Meredith in his article in the March 1979 Good News titled “Should You Help the Underdog?”


*#2 Jesus Christ to comes FOR the Bride, goes to heaven, and then coming back WITH the Bride*


You can read their explanation in Richard Ames’s article in the Living Church News titled “The Saints Will Stand Before God’s Throne In Heaven http://www.lcg.org/cgi-bin/lcg/lcn/lcn-issue.cgi?category=LivingChurchNews&item=1361829303

He also gives the same material in his sermon titled the same as the article here – http://www.lcg.org/cgi-bin/lcg/sermons/lcg-sermons.cgi?category=Sermon1&item=1351231201  

*Teaching through Mr. Armstrong*

*Prophecy – Nuclear Warfare – August 10, 1984 SERMON by Herbert W Armstrong*

And the churches of this world just don’t understand it. Now that time of great trouble is what is known as the Great Tribulation. And churches all over talk about the — protestant churches — talk about the Great Tribulation, and they think the Great Tribulation is a curse sent by God. They don’t understand it, and they say the church will be raptured up before the Great Tribulation, that the church won’t be in it, the church will go up to heaven. 

And they have a pretty way of saying it that Christ will first come for His bride and take her up to heaven, that is the church, and they think they are all going to go to heaven. And then after the Great Tribulation, some think that will be one year, some think it’ll be three and a half years, some think it will be seven years, and Seventh Day Adventists think it will be one thousand years, and then He comes back with His bride after they’ve been in heaven. 

I don’t know why they want to come back to this terrible earth after they’ve been in heaven all this time, but apparently that’s the way they teach. “[End Quote]

  I have also found a sermon transcript from someone who didn’t agree with it since it went against the Bible and what Mr. Armstrong taught. This can be found here. I do not have the speaker nor the date. https://wwcg-archives.com/Going%20to%20Heaven%20-%20Richard%20Ames%20-%20Living%20Church%20of%20God%20Teachings.html    


  He also teaches that it is OKAY to wear makeup if worn modestly. Mr. Armstrong taught that it was *SIN*!!  

*LCG teaching on Makeup*

*NOTE* the reasoning he used was also the reasoning FOR the *PAGAN CROSS*!!


  Take a quick search through the archives and you’ll see several articles and booklets on the subject. It is Clear, Makeup is SIN.  

*#4 The King of the South*

What Did Herbert W Armstrong teach on the King of the South?


*#5 That this is the Laodicean Era of God’s Church*


LCG Teaching

*Page 2 – Illumination – Fall 2015 – Living University(LCG college) *

“However, we live in a Laodicean era where the “days are evil,” and in Satan’s society that is designed to monopolize and consume as much of our precious time as possible. “


Living University – Church History Lesson 07 – The Church Today – The Laodicean Era


*Living Church News – November/December 2009 – Seven Eras, Seven Attitudes by Richard Ames*

We are living in the Laodicean era 



*Living Church News – July/August 2017 – Why the Living Church of God by Mike DeSimone*

Dr. Meredith frequently told us, “We are the Church of God in the Laodicean era, trying to do a Philadelphian Work.””


*Living Church News – March/April 2009 – Editorial – Go “All Out” to Serve Your Creator!” by Roderick Meredith*

During this Laodicean era, God specifically warns us all: “I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot.”



*Where is God’s True Church Today booklet by Roderick Meredith*

Today, we are clearly in the Laodicean era, which Christ condemns for being “lukewarm” even though it has most of the Truth.”



*Teaching through Mr. Armstrong*

What Did Herbert W Armstrong teach on the Laodicean Era?

*#6 Branches Churches of God*


LCG Teaching

*Where is God’s True Church Today booklet by Roderick Meredith*

“It is important to note that while God’s true Church is one spiritual organism, the Bible shows that it is normal for the Church to exist in several different corporate “fellowships” or “branches” at the same time. In chapters 2 and 3 of Revelation, Christ reveals the characteristics of the seven ages or “eras” of God’s true Church. “



*Living Church News – July/August 2000 – “What is the Mission of God’s Church? By Douglas Winnail*

It is incredible how much confusion exists today among the various branches and fragments of the Church of God about the mission of the church. 



*Living Church News – September/October 2013 – Personal Grow in Faith Through Trials! By Roderick Meredith*

Yet in the trials that we have today in the Work and in the Living Church of God and all branches of God’s Church—it may be easy to “give up” if things do not seem to be “going well” at any particular time.  



*Where is God’s True Church Today? By Roderick Meredith*

To be in the body of Christ, you must be fully surrendered to God and be led by God’s Spirit: “Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His” (Romans 8:9). So each member of the true Church must be genuinely converted and led by God’s Spirit. Again, God gives the Holy Spirit “to those who obey Him” (Acts 5:32). Yet down through the ages, there have been many different Church of God fellowships—”branches” of the true Church—that sometimes coexisted. In the first century after Christ, the Apostle John wrote of seven churches in Asia Minor, which displayed attitudes that would be found throughout Church history to come, each of which would also represent the dominant attitude of the Church in successive “eras.” These different “branches” of God’s true Church were often in different parts of the world—perhaps, at times, unknown even to each other. For example, during the 12th and 13th centuries, God’s true Church existed among the Bogomils in Hungary even while those believers were unaware that a similar group of Sabbath-keepers existed simultaneously in Great Britain.  

Many in the U.S. are familiar with the Seventh Day Church of God. Over the years it underwent various “splits”—as many denominations do—and before World War II had ended up with one group headquartered in Stanberry, Missouri, and another headquartered in Salem, West Virginia. From this environment, God raised up Herbert W. Armstrong, who for many years led what became known as the Worldwide Church of God. The Worldwide Church of God became, by far, the largest group of true believers who surrendered their lives to keep the whole law of God, observe the true Sabbath, preach the Gospel of the coming Kingdom of God and use the correct name, “the Church of God.” Even during this time, however, there existed the aforementioned groups of the Seventh Day Church of God. Mr. Armstrong often acknowledged that these different fellowships were “branches” of the true Church.”



*Teaching through Mr. Armstrong*

*Worldwide News – June 24, 1985 – Recent History of the Philadelphia Era of the World by Herbert W Armstrong*

Little groups, splintering off, centered in Washington, D.C.; Eugene, Ore.; Tyler, Tex.; Monterey, Calif.; and other places with groups too small to mention. They are not bearing fruit for the Kingdom. They are not pleasing God or being blessed by Him. Jesus said, “By their fruits you shall know them.” They usually claim to be “branches” of the Church of God. But Jesus said, “I will build my church” (Matthew 16:18). He did not say denominations, sects, cults, branches or a church divided against itself. Rather He said a house divided against itself cannot stand. There is one true Church and one only. The apostle Paul pictured humanly self-appointed “branches” when he said to the elders of the local church at Ephesus that some of their own selves would depart to draw a following after themselves.  

Paul said, “But now are they many members, yet but one body” (I Corinthians 12:20). How was that one body organized? Did it have one government? “And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues” (verse 28). Verse 25 shows there should be no divisions in the body — no branches or branch organizations.  

The Church is “built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief corner stone; in Whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy Temple in the Lord”(Ephesians 2:20-21). Note, the Church is organized and fitly framed together, not organized with competing and differing branches.”

*Unity Sermon – February 4, 1984 by Herbert W Armstrong*

Ephesians 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: (16) From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted [just as if it’s welded together — the one body, not two bodies. Not different branches, not different sects and denominations — one a Methodist, one a Baptist, one a Presbyterian, one a Congregationalist, one a Church of Christ, another a Church of England, and so on.”[End Quote]

Read the Whole article *“IS GOD’S CHURCH COMPOSED OF MANY SEPARATE ‘GROUPS’? By Herbert W Armstrong – Good News (and Worldwide News) December 18, 1978”*


*Success Based On God’s Law (Origins) Sermon – July 30, 1983 by Herbert W Armstrong*

 Christ is the Vine. We are each individually the branches. But we have to bear fruit, or we are going to be cut off; and that is our doing.”

Now there’s another thing. Here one says, well, you see the churches are like Christ said about the Vine. There are many branches. So there are many churches. There’s a Baptist church, a Presbyterian, and this and that. And one, who left this Church and started another church of his own, said he’s one of the branches — that there are many churches, not just one Church.

But they are all joined onto the Vine, and that’s speaking of individuals; and there are individual Churches, but they are all joined onto the Vine. Now there’s a Church here. There’s one that met this morning in this same place. There’s another one meeting this afternoon over in the Imperial Gym, I guess it is. We’ve had Churches today meeting today in Boston, where I expect to speak next Sabbath. You know, they’re all branches too. But we’re joined together! And we are joined in, and through, and by Christ — together. “

And, by the way, if you look at the telecast tomorrow morning, I wonder are you indifferent — thinking “Well I don’t need to look at it”? Well, brethren, it’s money that you pay in. Of course, it’s God’s money. But that’s what’s paying for it, and each one of those telecasts tomorrow (The one tomorrow morning on Channel 11, and the one tomorrow evening on Channel 9.), each one of those just for that one-half hour is costing several thousand dollars. Did you know that? But they reach a lot of people; and telephone calls come in by the hundreds and the thousands as a result immediately, from people clear outside of the Church.

But that’s part of your work. I just happen to be the speaker. But you notice that it says, “This is sponsored by the Worldwide Church of God.” Not by me. I don’t sponsor it. You are all the Worldwide Church of God. The Worldwide Church of God is all of us combined, put together. And we’re ONE BODY fitly framed and joined together whether we are in Australia, New Zealand, Canada, the Philippines, South Africa, England, Germany, or where — ONE BODY, many offices, many things to do; but one body. So let’s understand that.”


"Out of their own mouths…" – The Restored Church of God

NOTE: This is NOT From the Restored Church of God. This is an Exposé showing what David C. Pack is teaching in CONTRAST with what Mr. Herbert W Armstrong and the Worldwide Church of God taught! By Archives Staff In David C Pack’s sermon titled “Watchman to Israel – Messenger to Laodicea – Part 01 & Part 02” David C. Pack uses one scripture to “prove”, there are TWO Watchman in the end-time. One Mr. Armstrong, and the other himself. Here’s the scripture,

“Make ye mention to the nations; behold, publish against Jerusalem, that WATCHERS come from a far country, and give out their voice against the cities of Judah.” Jeremiah 4:16.
This, he claims, that this proves that there has to be ANOTHER watchman. NOW, let’s look at the context of this scripture. Starting with verse 14:
“Jer 4:14 O Jerusalem, wash thine heart from wickedness, that thou mayest be saved. How long shall thy vain thoughts lodge within thee? Jer 4:15 For a voice declareth from Dan, and publisheth affliction from mount Ephraim. Jer 4:16 Make ye mention to the nations; behold, publish against Jerusalem, that watchers come from a far country, and give out their voice against the cities of Judah.”
NOW, let’s look at the Bibles interpretation of the “watchers”.
Verse 17 “As keepers of a field, are they against her round about; because she hath been rebellious against me, saith the LORD.”
  Now put them together…
” Make ye mention to the nations; behold, publish against Jerusalem, that watchers come from a far country, and give out their voice against the cities of Judah. As keepers of a field, are they against her round about; because she hath been rebellious against me, saith the LORD.” Zechariah 4:16-17
  This plainly refers to the nations surrounding Jerusalem. Notice even the secular Commentaries agree with what the Bible teaches on this. James Fausset and Brown says
” The neighboring foreign “nations” are summoned to witness Jehovah’s judgments on His rebel people (Jer_6:18, Jer_6:19). watchers — that is, besiegers (compare 2Sa_11:16); observed or watched, that is, besieged. their voice — the war shout. keepers of a field — metaphor from those who watch a field, to frighten away the wild beasts.”
  Clark’s Commentary says
“Watchers come from a far country – Persons to besiege fortified places.”
  David C. Pack claims he is ONE of those watchers!   Also, during this sermon he deals with some letters “attacking” him, some people calling him demon possessed. He just brushes them off as “attacks toward God’s man”. But during this sermon he goes and explains something that is VERY revealing! He was talking about the time when he was writing “Annoint your eyes”. Apparently he didn’t write it out, he dictated it to his wife, which typed it up for him. He said that “he doesn’t know what he, himself, says”, nor does he “understand it, until after he says it”. Paraphrasing of course. He doesn’t know what he was saying, nor does he understand what he was saying until he already spoke it. This is CLEAR evidence of a demon.   He then claims that he was NEVER part of Global. “He worked with them, but was never a member.” That is clearly a straight out lie. He was on the Board which fired Roderick Meredith from Global. He then compares it with Mr. Armstrong’s example of being associated with Sardis, but not being one of their members. Saying it was the same with him and Global. NOW, if that was the case, he’s saying that global was the previous era, and he was the leader of the next. That is saying he’s not a Philadelphian, but a Laodicean. Now I’m not saying global was philadelphia, far from it, but you get the point. BUT, he then contradicts himself by saying shortly after that he is the “messenger/angel of laodicea” but he’s not what Christ says of him in the Book of Revelation. He’s NOT LAODICEAN. And he’s saying HE’S NOT PHILADELPHIAN. He admits in his satanic way, that HE’S NOT A MEMBER OF THE CHURCH! Yet in the same breath saying he is.Confusing right? Who is the Author of this confusion? 1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace…” He then explains what a messenger is. He says a messenger brings good news OR bad news, or BOTH. He then explains that there was ONLY TWO Church era’s who’s message was ONLY GOOD NEWS. Smyrna, and Philadelphia.(because they weren’t told anything bad about them, no bad news) The ONLY one that had ONLY BAD NEWS is Laodicea. Nothing good said about them. He then precedes to say that you don’t NEED to heed the Good News! You can heed the Bad news and still make it, he claims. WHAT does GOSPEL mean? Everyone knows it means GOOD NEWS. What is a requirement to be part of the Church? “Repent, and BELIEVE the GOSPEL” the Good News of the Kingdom of God. He is saying “repent and Believe the ‘aschima NEA’ or ‘bad news'”. The exact OPPOSITE of God’s Word! Now, He then calls himself the messenger of Laodicea. The Messenger who only brings BAD NEWS, not Good News, he claims. Isn’t this his admission that he doesn’t preach the GOSPEL? The Good NEWS? Let’s look at the scripture
“Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; Rev 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Rev 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: Rev 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. Rev 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. Rev 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. Rev 3:22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. “
  Notice Christ is speaking to the ANGEL or MESSENGER of the Laodiceans. Everything said here is directed to that leader of that era. Of course, David C. Pack says he’s this messenger, but he says these scriptures are not talking about him, it’s talking about the message he speaks. LOL. He then continues to say that these messages are NOT to the Church era’s! THAT REJECTS THE RESTORED TRUTH ABOUT THE 7 CHURCH ERA’S!   Now I’m NOT saying he’s the Laodicean Church’s leader. He’s Far From it. That Church and era is not here YET. And now, he’s claiming to be the JOSHUA of Zechariah. Mr. David C Pack claims to be an Apostle. An Apostle was taught by Jesus Christ ONLY, only after the man had wiped CLEAN his mind of this world’s ways and teachings.(NOTICE Mr. Armstrong explains this about his experience). Mr. Armstrong had his mind wiped clean of this world’s ways and was taught ONLY what the Bible said(Jesus Christ in Print). Mr. Armstrong was producing fruits and never claimed to be one BEFORE he realized what office Christ gave him. He was evangelizing FIRST. David C. Pack was only pastor rank, before he claimed the office APOSTLE. He passed a few ranks to get where he claims now. Herbert W Armstrong was trained by Jesus Christ personally by the Word of God, not in any seminary/college, taught by men and their doctrines and beliefs. David C. Pack was taught by MEN! He was taught in Ambassador College what he OUGHT to teach, of which has failed to do. David Pack claims He CAN’T CHANGE what Mr. Armstrong taught. His Job is mostly with prophecy, he claims. But he changes what Mr. Armstrong taught over and over again.   So far in summary, David C. Pack
  • claims to be one of the “Watchers” of Jeremiah 4, one of those who are against Jerusalem, enemies to be in fact(Not his words, but the Bible’s).
  • He also is clearly demon possessed. And this is by his own lips that proves it. (saying things without knowing what is said, nor understanding what he has said until after he has said it shows something is in control, not his own mind. Certainly not God.)
  • He claims he NEVER was part of the Global Church of God through the 1990’s. When he was a very big part of it.
  • He, with his analogy, explains that he’s not Philadelphian, nor is he Laodicean. But one outside of the Church.
  • He then explains that he’s not preaching the Good News, the Gospel. But Bad News(ασχημα ΝΕΑ – aschima NEA).
  • He Claims the seven messages to the Churches, are NOT messages to the Church ERA’S! But given to the messengers, individuals, INDEPENDENT of the God’s Church mentioned. This rejects the restored Truth about The Seven Church Era’s, that Christ restored.
  • He claims to be an Apostle, when in fact by his fruits he’s NOT.
  • He Claims to be messenger of Laodicean and what “PROVES” it, is that he wrote a ton of books!
  • He claims to have RE-WRITTEN every single book of Mr. Armstrong, except Mystery of the Ages. He, in this sermon explains that he was a bit confused on the matter about that. He felt “God” told him to leave that book alone, that book was OFF LIMITS. While he was explaining this, you get the impression he was confused about why he couldn’t re-write it. It was like his body was willing, but his “spirit/Demon” was told not to. He didn’t understand why. It was just strange.
  • He also claims that you have to JOIN the RCG. “JOIN THE CHURCH” he claims. Which again is WRONG, because you can’t JOIN God’s Church.
  • He even appeared on the history Channel’s series titled ” The Nostradamus effect: Satan’s Army”.(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOjChoHGBYM) Supporting Nostradamus.
  • He claimed Mr. Armstrong wasn’t given understanding about the Laodicean Era, and it’s message to that Church. LOL. Anyone who knows what was taught knows he taught it.
Just visit this to find out what Mr. Armstrong taught(https://wwcg-archives.com/2018/01/06/opinion-herbert-w-armstrong-on-the-laodicean-era/) After ALL this…   IS THIS FRUITS of a Man of God? Would you see any MAN OF GOD do any of these things?  There is a lot of things I cannot put here for sake of space. But once shown what is wrong, once shown the fruits. Once shown the Truth, What are you going to do?   IS THE RESTORED CHURCH OF GOD THE TRUE CHURCH? Remember… 2Co 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 2Co 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.   Let’s HOLD FAST to what Christ Restored to His Church by the HOLY SPIRIT, through His Chosen Apostle, End-Time Elijah, Messenger(Mal 3), John the Baptist, Moses, Noah, Zerubbabel etc,etc, Herbert W. Armstrong. HOLD FAST to the TRUTH! OBEY CHRIST’S COMMAND.   Revelation 3:11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.]]>

What About The Restored Church of God? – Do We Join God's Church?

DO WE “JOIN” GOD’S CHURCH? Many teach that FALSE doctrine Today! David C. Pack mentioned something in his Open Letter to all WCG Splinters(dated 2013), that… well I’ll just quote it…

“We pray diligently that more will follow Christ’s command to “anoint their eyes” and join HIS Church.” – David C. Pack

http://rcg.org/sep/rcg_fruits_2013.html Let me call to remembrance what The True Church taught, although the RCG claims

“…we did not break the grand pattern set by Mr. Armstrong—any of it!” – David C. Pack

Take a look at the following.

Herbert W. Armstrong Plain Truth Subscriber Letter March 10,1965 Herbert W. Armstrong

“Nowhere in the New Testament do we find that Jesus, or the Apostles, ever coaxed, urged or cajoled anyone into “joining” the Church. They merely proclaimed the TRUTH — the GOOD NEWS — of the Kingdom of God. No one was urged to “join.” In fact, according to the Bible, one CANNOT join God’s true Church. If we have not received the GIFT of God’s Spirit, “we are none of His” (Rom. 8:9). The proclaiming of the Gospel by Jesus and by His Apostles was merely EDUCATIONAL — proclaiming God’s TRUTH — leaving all hearers free to make their own decision.  

We follow their example. No one is ever asked to join. No one is ever urged or pleaded with to “give their heart to the Lord,” in the way many Churches do. We are not proselyters. We make no effort to take members away from other Churches.”

Armstrong CoWorker letter June 1936 Herbert W. Armstrong

“How, then, does one get INTO the true CHURCH OF GOD, which is THE BODY OF CHRIST? Does he JOIN it, like one joins a lodge or a worldly club or society? Brethren, there is not a single text in the Bible that speaks of JOINING THE CHURCH! Rather, “God adds to the Church SUCH AS MIGHT BE SAVED!” (Acts 2:47). Ministers have no doubt written out membership certificates to many who ARE NOT SAVED! Many have accepted an ARGUMENT — many have accepted so-called “Church of God doctrine,” — many are resting and attending church on the Sabbath — who have never been truly CONVERTED — who have never really DIED and been BORN AGAIN, and who do not have THE HOLY SPIRIT! It is only those being SAVED — who have THE HOLY SPIRIT — whom GOD adds to His true CHURCH. Men may add others to their organizations, but GOD only adds those being SAVED to HIS CHURCH! How does God put us into the true CHURCH OF GOD? “By one SPIRIT are we all baptised (put into) into ONE BODY.” (I Cor. 12:13). Not by joining it. Not by some preacher writing out a membership certificate! Not by “casting your lot,” or “Taking your stand.” And note it! There is but just the ONE BODY!”

All About Water Baptism Booklet By Herbert W. Armstrong

“Note well these facts: One may “join” a lodge, social club, or organized group of MEN (and most churches today have degenerated into social societies). But ONE CANNOT JOIN THE TRUE CHURCH OF GOD! You cannot GET in of your own accord! No, GOD MUST PUT YOU IN — no man can do it — you cannot do it yourself!”

Mystery of the Ages By Herbert W. Armstrong

“True Christians: Draftees—Not Volunteers  

It is only through Christ that sinning humanity may be reconciled to God the Father. They must first come to Christ. But no person can come to Christ except God the Father selects and, through his Holy Spirit, draws them.  

That may come as an astonishing new truth, but the more you study the New Testament, and how this truth is constantly borne out throughout the New Testament, the more clear this will become to you.  

No wonder the Church and its purpose has been a mystery. Satan has blinded the minds of a deceived and counterfeit Christianity.  

Anyone who “joins the church of his choice” has not come into God’s true Church. One cannot just “join” the true Church of God. One is first selected and drawn by God the Father through his Spirit, brought to a complete heartrending repentance, and changed in his total life-style, and has also not only believed in and accepted Jesus Christ as personal Savior, but also has believed Christ. Remember Christ is the Word of God. Jesus was the Word of God in Person. The Bible is the same Word of God in writing. To believe Christ is to believe what he says—in other words, to believe God’s Word the Holy Bible.”

Where Is the True Church Booklet By Herbert W. Armstrong

“So, when Satan failed to prevent the Church from being founded and getting off to a glorious start, what did he do next? He deceived certain humans into seeking to destroy the Church from within. There’s a saying, “If you can’t defeat them, join them. He caused some within the Church to turn to a false and counterfeit gospel.

In Galatians 1:6-7, we read that the churches in Galatia had turned to “another gospel.” They had believed those who began to proclaim “another Jesus” (II Cor. 11:4). These false ministers professing to be ministers of Christ were in fact ministers of Satan (verses 13-15). Thus, from false brethren within the Church, Satan succeeded finally in deceiving even the vast majority in the Church. He succeeded in turning this majority into a growing false and counterfeit church.”
How To Recognize The True Church Plain Truth April 1968

“Jesus purchased THE TRUE CHURCH by shedding His blood for it (Acts 20:28). The TRUE Church is not some politically organized denomination which one JOINS or becomes a member, of in order to be “saved.” Jesus did not die for some one religious denomination or another — called a church.  

Joining a local church congregation does not put you into God’s true Church! Any church you can “join” is NOT God’s Church!  

You CAN’T JOIN the true Church; only God can PUT YOU INTO IT BY HIS SPIRIT (I Cor. 12:13). God alone can make you a member of His Church — if you surrender your life to Him.  

God will give that Spirit only to those who are willing to “OBEY HIM”! (Acts 5:32.)  

When YOU receive God’s Spirit — which is the spirit of a sound, sane mind (II Tim. 1:6-7), you become at that moment a newly begotten member of the body of Christ — which is the true Church of God!  

The receiving of God’s Spirit and the MIND OF CHRIST (Phil. 2:5) upon REPENTANCE and BAPTISM PUTS YOU INTO, baptizes you into God’s TRUE Church!  

“For by ONE SPIRIT are we all baptized into ONE BODY to (I Cor. 12:13).  

YOU can be part of God’s true Church by earnestly repenting of your sins — disobedience to GOD’S LAWS — by asking God to cover your sins through the blood of Jesus Christ, by calling on God’s true servants to baptize you, and by claiming God’s promise of the gift of His Holy Spirit. In that way, and that way ONLY, does anyone enter into the true Church.  

Church attendance is not the most important thing! Church attendance does not, by itself, mean CHURCH MEMBERSHIP in God’s sight! Some people view “church going” as an end in itself. But it most definitely IS NOT.  

God expressly forbids His people ever to join in with the worship of counterfeit church bodies — no matter how “close” to the truth they might seem! Only the genuine worship of God with His TRUE Church is acceptable to Him!  

You need to thoroughly EXAMINE YOURSELF. You NEED TO BE SURE!  

If YOU have TRULY REPENTED of YOUR sins and now realize the VITAL NECESSITY of personal contact with and guidance by JESUS CHRIST and His TRUE SERVANTS, write regarding baptism to Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong.  

Your eternal salvation is at stake! May God help you to heed this warning!”

Just What Is The Church By Herbert W. Armstrong

“So note it well! One cannot enter the true Church by putting himself in-by “joining. One may join a social club, a sports team, or a secular group-but NOT the Church of God. Incidentally, is it not significant that so many of this world’s “churches” have become, virtually, just social clubs?… ” “…And thus it is that the CHURCH is composed of those who are the children of God. That is why the CHURCH is the Church of GOD, even as the Old Testament Church was called “the congregation of Israel”-the human children of Israel.  

That is why, also, one CANNOT PUT HIMSELF into the Church by “deciding to JOIN.” When he becomes a son of GOD, by having and being led by the Spirit of God (Rom. 8:14), then God has PUT HIM INTO the Church by begetting him as a son of God.  

“Joining” a group that calls itself a church-having one’s name on the membership roll of some group calling itself a church-does not make one in true fact a member of THE Church Jesus founded. Here is positive proof: “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his” (Romans 8:9).” “Is it possible that one who has joined a sect, church, or denomination NOT doing God’s Work, might be truly converted, and led by God’s Spirit in him? The answer is YES-I have known of a few. But in every case, either they came INTO the organized spiritual organism Christ is using in the real Work of God-or, when their eyes were opened to further light and truth, they rejected it and LOST the Spirit of God. And this was amply demonstrated by the fruits.”

Just What Is a CO-WORKER? by Herbert W. Armstrong page 1 Good News August 1982

And let me first say that the Worldwide Church of God is nondenominational and nonproselyting. It does not solicit or urge people to become members, or to join.  

In fact, one cannot “join” this Church. One enters only by being baptized by the Holy Spirit into this, God’s Church. Of course we joyfully welcome all whom God through Christ baptizes into His Church.”

Why Churches Are Divided Plain Truth March 1982 Herbert W. Armstrong

“Some, not realizing one of God’s own called and consecrated ministers could call and explain and answer questions, have JOINED one of the churches of this world. You cannot JOIN the true Church of God-the Almighty GOD puts you in.”

The Ambassador College Bible Correspondence Course Lesson 19, 1983 WHAT and WHY the CHURCH?

“The members of God’s Church do not merely decide that they would like to “join” His Church, decide what they would like to believe, and begin attending services. It is God who calls an individual and grants repentance (John 6:44; Rom. 2:4), and new members are added to the Church of God only upon repentance, baptism and receipt of God’s Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38, 47; I Cor. 12:13). The repentant believer becomes a begotten child of God when he receives the gift of the Holy Spirit. And he believes the doctrines Jesus has put into His Church.”

Meaning of Days of Unleavened bread April 6, 1985 Herbert W. Armstrong

“Brethren, I won’t compromise. If you want to compromise, go join one of these factions that have turned off from us that are LIBERAL. They’ll be real liberal. They let you go if you want to go Satan’s way instead of God’s way, and PRETEND that you’re in the Kingdom of God, PRETEND YOU’RE IN GOD’S CHURCH. If you want to KID YOURSELF, go do it until you die. But you’re being JUDGED NOW. JUDGMENT IS ON THE HOUSE OF GOD. JUDGMENT IS ON US. JUDGMENT IS NOT ON THE PEOPLE IN CHINA AND THE PEOPLE IN INDIA AND THE PEOPLE IN RUSSIA. JUDGMENT IS NOT ON EVEN THE PROTESTANTS AND THE CATHOLICS YET. BUT JUDGMENT IS ON US; AND WE’RE BEING JUDGED, BRETHREN.”

How Good and Pleasant Sept 29, 1985 Herbert W. Armstrong

“In fact, you can’t join God’s Church. You never were joined. You were put in by the Spirit of God. You were baptized into the Church by the Spirit of God. That’s the way we come into God’s true Church.”

Prove All Things: What and Why the Church? By Bernard W. Schnippert Good News May 1985

“Most people, for example, consider a church to be a building, or at least those persons who have “joined” a certain organization by registering on its official rolls. Some think the purpose of a church is merely to perpetuate itself and do little more than provide social events for its members. Others take an almost opposite approach and become virtually obnoxious by trying to proselytize and force people to believe as they do and join with them.”

Why Some Fall Away By Leroy Neff Good news Jan 1961

“You Can’t “Join” God’s Church  

We do not “join” the body of Christ. God makes us a part of it through His Holy Spirit after COMPLETE REPENTANCE, BAPTISM, and a total change of attitude. We remain in the church ONLY by CONTINUING in this right attitude and by OVERCOMING through prayer and faith and obedience.  

We do not become a part of the body of Christ by telling our friends or neighbors that I “belong to the Radio Church of God.” Nor do we become a part of that true body of believers by just signing a statement. We do not become a part of that TRUE BODY BY BAPTISM ALONE. It requires complete repentance and submission to God — and faith toward Jesus Christ — before we are put into the true Church of God. Let us not deceive ourselves. We may fool some people, but we cannot fool God. HE IS OUR JUDGE.  

Don’t deceive yourself. It is time to examine yourself to determine whether or not you are in the faith. Whether or not you are truly a part of God’s Church in this climactic end-time.  

The time is fast approaching when it will be too late for change and correction, too late to go to the place of safety that God is preparing for His people.  

Some of you are sinning and know it. You have procrastinated and delayed obeying God. God is merciful, kind, loving, patient. But there always comes a time when God’s patience ends. Then will be the time of action. He may permit you to continue in sin for a season, but if you do not repent and change, He will soon cut you off IN YOUR SINS.  

Others of you are sinning and cannot see your sin.  

Why? Because you are not continually looking into God’s Word for correction. Sin is the transgression of the law. It defines what sin is. The Word of God is a spiritual mirror. Look into that spiritual mirror to see your sin.”

Where Is God’s TRUE CHURCH Today? booklet By Brian Knowles

“How Made a Member  

But how may one become a member of the body of Christ? Is it merely a matter of joining the “church of your choice”?  

Jesus said: “No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day” (John 6:44, 65).  

One cannot decide to join the body of Christ. It is something God must put you into. We are instructed by the Apostle Paul that “…now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him” (I Cor. 12:18).  

It is God alone who decides who will compose the body of Christ. It is God who adds to the Church those whom He chooses to be saved. “…And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved” (Acts 2:47).  

How, then, does God add a member to the Church? Is it a matter of signing on some dotted line? What is it that signifies membership in the Church of God?  

Paul informs us: “For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit” (I Cor. 12:13).  

It is the Holy Spirit — which is the power of God (Acts 1:8) — which puts us into the body of Christ. We are immersed or plunged into the Church by the receipt of God’s Spirit. (Write for our free article titled “How You Can Be Imbued with the Power of God.”)  

One cannot put himself into the Church by “deciding to join.” When he becomes a son of God, by having and being led by the Holy Spirit of God (Rom. 8:14), then God has put him into the Church.  

“Joining” a group that calls itself a church — having one’s name on the membership roll of some group calling itself a church — does not make one in true fact a member of the Church Jesus founded. Here is positive proof: “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his” (Rom. 8:9).  

It is the living Christ who puts members into His Church — and it is done by the Holy Spirit. Notice, now, the conditions for receiving God’s Spirit — Acts 2:38: “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.” This is speaking of being baptized in water. (Write for our free booklet titled All About Water Baptism.)  

The Holy Spirit is given by the laying on of hands following baptism (Acts 19:5, 6). A person who receives the Holy Spirit is “begotten” or conceived of God. Following a life of developing and overcoming, the Christian is “born” into the Family of God at the resurrection and return of Christ (I Cor. 15:50-54; I Thess. 4:13-17; Rev. 20:4-6; Phil. 3:20-21; I John 3:1-2; II Tim. 4:8).  

That body of believers, having the Holy Spirit of God, constitutes the Church of God. But does this mean that the Church has no organization?”

“…Only God can place one into the body of Christ. The true Church is not something you may “join” — it is something you are immersed into by the Spirit of the living God. But, if God is leading you by His Spirit to His truth, it is up to you as an individual to seek Him.”
What Is A Church? By R. A. Wiedenheft Tomorrow’s World, May 1971

“CHURCH business today is big business! Millions of dollars are spent on “churches” and millions of people go “to church” every week.  

But few realize that by Biblical definition, one cannot go to or construct a church.  

In every case in the New Testament, the word “church” is translated from the Greek word ekklesia, which Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance defines as “a calling out, i.e., a popular meeting, a religious congregation.” It is also translated “assembly” a few times.  

Notice some examples of how ekklesia is used in the New Testament.  

Paul instructed the Roman Christians to “Greet Priscilla and Aquila, my helpers in Christ Jesus…. Likewise greet the church that is in their house” (Rom. 16:3, 5). Obviously there was no separate physical edifice in the house of Priscilla and Aquila, but the assembly of called-out ones — the Church — met there.  

Paul referred to the same congregation (hosted by Priscilla and Aquila) in I Cor. 16:19. “The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.” Colossians 4:15 refers to a congregation that met in the home of Nymphas in or near Laodicea. Philemon also had a church meeting in his home (Philemon 2).  

In the book of Acts, Luke referred to the Church in the days following Pentecost, 31 A.D. “And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple…. Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved” (Acts 2:46-47).  

The Church grows as Christ adds individuals to it; and it is wholly composed of those whom He has called out of the world — those who are set apart by Him to be a part of His body.  

Paul wrote of Christ, “And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, and the firstborn from the dead …” (Col. 1:18). In verse 24 Paul referred to himself, “Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body’s sake, which is the church.”  

Paul was willing to suffer for the Church — the body of Christ — those who had repented and had been converted by God.  

How plain! The Church is not the building. It’s not something one can go to or join!  

It is the sum total of all true Christians who have been begotten by the Holy Spirit, who have been called out by God, and have thus become part of the body of Christ — the true Church of God!”

Do You Compromise with Truth? By Roderick Meredith Plain Truth Dec 1964

So it is with many readers of The PLAIN TRUTH. They see God teaches a message of literal obedience. They see that it involves unspectacular and unpopular activities — like telling the TRUTH in all business and personal dealings, actually coming OUT of this vain, confused world and its mixed-up society, ceasing to live in adultery, keeping holy the days God made holy.  

Their human nature REBELS! They don’t want to REPENT of their REAL SINS! How much easier it would be to shake the preacher’s hand and “give their heart to the Lord.” How much easier to join a worldly “social club” that masquerades under the name of a “church.””

Should You ASSEMBLE Without a Minister? By Herman Hoeh Good News Oct 1957

“To many people, a local congregation becomes a place of SOCIAL rather than SPIRITUAL fellowship. People join themselves together, instead of BEING JOINED TO CHRIST. In John 15:5, Jesus said: “I am the vine, ye are the branches.” What would you think if the branches would say to themselves, let us bundle ourselves together?”

Amazing 2000 Year history of the Church Of God By Herman Hoeh Good News Jun 1958

“The true Church is the collective body of individuals, called out from the ways of this present world, who have TOTALLY surrendered themselves to the rule of God, and who, through the Holy Spirit, become the begotten sons of God (Rom. 8:9).  

The true Church is not some POLITICALLY ORGANIZED DENOMINATION which one joins or becomes a member of in order to be “saved.” Jesus did not die for some one ORGANIZATION called a Church (Acts 20:28).  

You can’t join the true Church; ONLY GOD CAN PUT YOU INTO IT!  

The Church is called the body of Christ because it is a SPIRITUAL ORGANISM whose LIVING, ACTIVE HEAD is Jesus Christ, in the same sense that the husband is HEAD of the wife (Eph. 5:23, 31).  

Notice that from the very beginning the Church was subject to the rule of God. It was not a government by the will of man or boards of men. Jesus is the Head of the Church. He rules the Church. Read the accompanying article in this issue.”

ACBC Lesson 52 – The Book and the church they couldn’t destroy

“In the history of God’s Church it has been repeatedly true that “many shall cleave to them with flatteries” (Dan. 11:34). The Thyatira Era was no exception. Partly because MANY were dissatisfied with the degradation and oppression of the established church, a large number of friends and others who sympathized with God’s true people were found in every country where God’s people went. But THEY were not the Church, even though the world regarded them all as Waldenses!  

Most of them were, at best, only co-workers — perhaps sincere, but unconverted — who had never given themselves completely and unreservedly to God.  

Now notice what this situation led to. It “prepared the way for the transformation of his (Waldo’s) following (those who cleaved with fatteries) into a sect or antichurch, a tendency already present in 1184. Under the pressure of persecution even the ‘friends’ felt themselves sectaries, and became increasingly merged with the main body (or better said, the small flock) of Waldenses” (from the Schaff-Herzog RELIGIOUS ENCYCLOPEDIA, article “Waldenses”). They then began to join THEMSELVES together, rather than being all united through the Holy Spirit.  

These people were not themselves the True Church, though the True Church was AMONG them.  

That is why they began so soon to compromise with error, and to commit “spiritual fornication.””

Which Day Is The Christian Sabbath? By Herbert W. Armstrong

“We can have true Christian fellowship only when each individual Christian is joined to Christ, and to the Father—as a branch of a grapevine joined to the vine.  

Now what joins the many branches of that vine to one another? When people meet on their own human-appointed day, trying to join themselves together in a church group, Christ is not present with them in that fellowship. He never put His presence in that day! They are like a lot of grape branches, cut off from the vine, trying to join themselves together!”

Armstrong Plain Truth Subscriber Letter May 27, 1969 Herbert W. Armstrong

“There are so many of these “come-on” schemes to get your money that I know it seems hard to realize that when we offer you something of real value WITHOUT ANY CHARGE — and tell you we have nothing to sell — you are not going to be asked to buy anything, or join anything — it is THE TRUTH, and there are no tricks or deceptions or gimmicks!  

YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD OF ANY OPERATION LIKE OURS! It is utterly unique. And isn’t it, after all, a refreshing experience to find something of vital value, with no such come-ons — something 100% aboveboard, honest and sincere?”

WHY YOU NEED TO CHANGE By Roderick Meredith Tomorrow’s World Feb 1971

“For God’s true Church cannot be “joined.” It is composed of those who have been called OUT of this “untoward generation” by God Himself to receive His Spirit, to understand His prophecies now rapidly being fulfilled, and to qualify for a position in His divine Government soon to be set up on this war-torn, sin-sick earth — the glorious Kingdom of God!”

What is Real Christianity? By Neil Earle Good News Oct/Nov 1982

Obey Christ, and you’ll encounter persecution (II Tim. 3:12). Jesus Christ’s simplest teachings are spiritual blockbusters far too revolutionary for those who join denominations like social clubs to improve their civic status.”

Seven Proofs of God’s TRUE CHURCH Booklet

“It is only those who have really been conquered of God, who have unconditionally repented, been baptized, and have really received of His Spirit who are members of His Church.  

They are then joined to Him. They do not join themselves together, becoming a “group” of human beings known by a certain name. Rather, they become directly joined to Christ!  

Notice it: “I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman,” said Jesus. “Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away…. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing” (John 15:1-5).  

The newly begotten child of God becomes directly joined to Christ. He is the Vine supplying the life-giving sap from the roots which produces the fruit on the branches. The branches, or the individual members of the Church, are joined only through the vine. If any member is not truly in Christ, and Christ living in Him, then he is not a member of the true Church.  

“That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you” wrote John, “that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ” (I John 1:3).  

The true fellowship of one member of the Church to another is in and through the Father and the Son. Any worldly organization of men, banding themselves together in their own fellowship, is just like a group of branches lying in a pile. Not joined to a productive, life-giving vine, they are unproductive; they are lifeless.  

Do you see? The name of the true Church of God is a vitally important proof of the Church. It is not to be taken lightly; it has real meaning.  

God names things for what they are.”[Last of articles]


Getting back to what David C. Pack teaches… Yet David C. Pack continues to Preach This!

“It is absolutely critical to see that, in time, all those who love the full truth—those who are willing to “anoint their eyes”—must join one organization—The Restored Church of God!”



“In God’s Church, we do not have as a goal to “get big!” This is no longer Philadelphia’s time! Those of Philadelphian attitude must expect to be outnumbered. However, when all those with God’s Spirit have been joined to us, we will likely become the largest group—and maybe by far.” http://rcg.org/sep/books/wtrcog.html


“Many waited to see our “fruit” before joining us. Be certain your definition of “fruit” does not include size. While numbers are irrelevant to your decision, one look at just our websites reveals an explosion of fruit—that we are already doing an immense work that towers over organizations much larger, older and wealthier than we. Our websites describe the who, what, where, when, why and how of God’s Church. Also, consider that if everyone waited to see appear whatever is their definition of “fruits,” for months or even years, no one would have come to help produce the “fruit” others—and possibly you—want to evaluate today. So, there are two types of people who will join us. In the end, both belong.

First: Those who will come through fire, hail, wind and storm to be at the right place—as long as they know it is right. Size means nothing to them! Second: The many additional people who must see many others do this before they will. They will want to see a certain amount of size before coming. Right or wrong, this is historically the way of human nature. Of course, we are well into this second phase, with most still recognizing and accepting they are joining a group still for a while smaller than the biggest splinters.” http://rcg.org/sep/books/wtrcog.html

again further down,

“A word to all the “unaffiliated”—those who chose to “stay home”: Many of you may have recognized very early that heresies or improper conduct were condoned by every “corporate” organization that left the WCG. You chose not to join any of them (or did and then felt compelled to leave), but perhaps tried to hold firm, either on your own or in small, loose groups. Many of you have been abused, as a direct result of the politics in the WCG, but also later in other groups. You are urged to carefully consider what God is doing in His Church—The Restored Church of God! Do not forget this vital passage: “And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as you see the day approaching” (Heb. 10:24-25).” http://rcg.org/sep/books/wtrcog.html

In Section 2 it states

“By now, you know we are not just another “splinter.” These questions arise: Who should join The Restored Church of God? What does membership in Restored mean? What should you expect if you come with us?”

It seems this is a social club, something to “JOIN”. POINT after POINT, David C. Pack says “JOIN God’s Church”, “Join the RCG”! That is NOT God’s Church! As you can see it is CONTRARY to what the Church taught, AND what the BIBLE teaches! I also noticed this attitude throughout his writings, the “GET” attitude, in CONTRAST with God’s Holy Spirit of “GIVE”. David C. Pack states,

“Though we do not require you to run a gauntlet of extensive counseling to join us, we do want you sure of your decision—so that we both “know what we are getting.””(same page as above)

“I must be blunt. If you are joining Restored, it must be because you believe this is God’s Church—where His government, truth and Work reside.” http://rcg.org/sep/books/wtrcog.html

AGAIN you cannot JOIN GOD’S CHURCH!!! It is not an organization of MEN! THIS REMINDS ME of 2 Timothy 3. This attitude/spirit is prevalent with David C. Pack, and HIS Church. BEWARE unless we fall into such traps, and/or become such a person. Read: 2Ti 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.   2Ti 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,   2Ti 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,   2Ti 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;   2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness(THE FORM OF GOD’S GOVERNMENT?), but denying the power thereof: from such turn away(HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM).   2Ti 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,   2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.(INTELLECTUALS, Talk a big talk, write MANY books)   2Ti 3:8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.   2Ti 3:9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.  ]]>

Prove All Things | Is the United Church of God Preaching Heresy?

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PROVE ALL THINGS | Is the United Church of God Preaching Heresy?

  We read in Psalm 111:10 that “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments”. The apostle Paul to the evangelist Timothy wrote: “Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.”(2 Tim. 2:7) God gives the understanding through His spirit to those who obey His Commandments. We are told in Proverbs 3:5 “Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.” So our “paradigm”, our “position” must be from God’s point of view not our own. The Church of God is the spiritual body of Christ.(1 Cor.12;Eph.4:11-16) The Holy Spirit in each of the members of Christ’s body, leads us in all things to Christ. Though the apostle be “absent in the flesh” today just as the apostle Paul wrote in Colossians 2, the apostle is with us “in the spirit”. He is a member of the spiritual body of Christ. “And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.”(1 Corinthians 12:26) God commands in His Word that we all “SPEAK THE SAME THING.”(1 Cor. 1:10) That “same thing” He put into His Church through His apostle. Mr. Armstrong wrote several articles on the mind of Christ of HOW doctrine, beliefs and teaching came into the true Church of God. Jesus Christ said “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”(Mark 1:15) What must we repent of? Sin. What is Sin? (1 John 3:4) It is the transgression of the Law of God. What is the gospel? It is the message Jesus Christ preached!(Mark 1:14) The Gospel of the Kingdom of God, or the GOVERNMENT of God. That government is based on THE LAW OF GOD, and the LAW OF GOD is predominant in the Bible from Genesis to Revelation. What is LAW? It is the rules of conduct. It is a WAY OF LIFE! So the gospel not only pertains to the proclamation that God will indeed send His son Jesus Christ to this earth to establish His Kingdom on this earth, but also how one must CONDUCT themselves in that Kingdom or even enter into that Kingdom! Now, those being called today, must repent from living and walking contrary to the Law of God, from breaking God’s Law and sinning against God. Then they must BELIEVE the gospel! The words which God gave unto His Son Jesus Christ, was given by Christ to His apostles.(John 17) These words are “spirit and life”(John 6:63) They are “all things pertaining to life and godliness”(2 Peter 1:3)which are ministered unto us by the Holy apostles of God. “Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall”(2 Peter 1:10) Therefore we are called to remember what was taught by God through Holy men in many places in the Bible. The gospel preached by Mr. Armstrong was not after men, but came from Christ. Even the apostle Paul had people questioning whether he had Christ speaking in him. He had people accusing him of being a “reprobate”, having Christ not speaking in him. He equates such accusers as people who have “sinned” or having breaking the law of God. “I told you before, and foretell you, as if I were present, the second time; and being absent now I write to them which heretofore have sinned, and to all other, that, if I come again, I will not spare: Since ye seek a proof of Christ speaking in me, which to you-ward is not weak, but is mighty in you. For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him by the power of God toward you. Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? But I trust that ye shall know that we are not reprobates. Now I pray to God that ye do no evil; not that we should appear approved, but that ye should do that which is honest, though we be as reprobates. For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth. For we are glad, when we are weak, and ye are strong: and this also we wish, even your perfection. Therefore I write these things being absent, lest being present I should use sharpness, according to the power which the Lord hath given me to edification, and not to destruction.”(2 Cor. 13:1-10) Compare with what is said in Micah 3:11. So to teach that Mr. Armstrong, the apostle of Christ, did not have Christ speaking in him, on certain subjects or points, is “sin”. It breaks the law of God. “But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.” 2 Peter 2 continues to explain how these ministers, due to SIN, speak evil of things they do not understand. They accuse the true ministers of Christ, including God’s apostle, of not having Christ speaking in them. They LACK THE UNDERSTANDING THAT GOD GIVES! Understanding comes from God to those who OBEY HIM. If we aren’t obeying God, we will not have a “good understanding”. Therefore the apostle Paul admonished those who make such accusations to “Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves.”(2 Cor. 13:5) Some even within God’s true Church have been guilty of doing this sort of thing. It is something that is labeled “SIN”, and must be repented of! John 17 shows us that Christ gave the Father’s Words to the apostles. In Mark 6:11 Christ tells His apostles that if ANYONE doesn’t receive them(the persons of the apostles) nor hear their words(all of what they preach), to leave that house or city shaking the dust of your feet for their judgment is WORST than Sodom and Gomorrah’s. We are told by Jude, the apostle of Christ, in God’s Word concerning the apostles words: ” But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ” [Jude 1:17] Also, the apostle Peter wrote: “This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance: That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:” [2 Peter 3:1-2] The apostle Paul wrote: “For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.” [1 Thes. 2:13] He also wrote: “For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me. For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.”(1 Cor.4:15-17) “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.” (Gal.1:8-12)Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us. For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;”…”And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.” (2 Thes. 3:6-7,14-15) How can we have company with those who OBEY NOT the words of the apostle of Christ? We are commanded to NOT have company with them. We have no need to doubt the apostle. He is NOT a reprobate. He is awaiting the First Resurrection. Christ was indeed speaking in him. Why should we “dehinge” ourselves from the apostle of Christ? Why should we “let loose of the coat-tails of Herbert Armstrong and clasp the hand of Christ” as one dissenting ex-minister said a long time ago? The apostle Paul heard that there were divsions among the people of God in Corinth. “For first of all, when ye come together[he is speaking of the passover service] in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.”(1 Cor.18:19) The reason for the division was due to heresies. Mr. Armstrong remarked in several articles, how the DIVISION that occurred during the 1970’s was due to the Church’s lack of obeying Romans 16:17. And this is true, for a corollary scripture 1 Corinthians 1:10 reads “Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.” Now what “thing” must we all speak? If everyone spoke their own thing, there would be DIVISION. And today there is. We must speak what Christ gave through His apostle! That is what we must speak! There is so many scriptures that tell us this! God equates speaking something contrary to the apostle, which causes DIVISION within the Church, as HERESY. In fact, Paul’s 2nd letter to the Corinthains corrected those in the Church who was CAUSING DIVISION by saying that Christ was not speaking in Paul. It corrects those who say the same thing against Herbert W. Armstrong. Do you remember the STP? Do you remember what the apostle of Christ, Herbert W. Armstrong, said about the “Doctrinal committee”? They actively sought out to DIS-PROVE the teachings, and doctrines that Christ put into the Church through His apostle. They brought damage, harm, and DIVISION to the body of Christ. It was heresy. It was SIN. And God tells us to have NO COMPANY with those who do these things. Christ raised His apostle up after total heart failure, to be the SPEARHEAD to RID THE CHURCH FROM SUCH THINGS. Those led by God’s Holy Spirit joined with him, and God added His blessings. If you read Malachi 2, which is a corrective message to the ministry, God has some very important things to say. “And ye shall know that I have sent this commandment unto you[the ministry- i.e verse 1], that my covenant might be with Levi, saith the LORD of hosts. My covenant was with him of life and peace; and I gave them to him for the fear wherewith he feared me, and was afraid before my name.[Rev. 3:8] The law of truth was in his mouth, and iniquity was not found in his lips: he walked with me in peace and equity, and did turn many away from iniquity. For the priest’s lips should keep knowledge, and they[the ministry] should seek the law at his mouth: for he is the messenger of the LORD of hosts.[THIS IS SPEAKING OF GOD’S APOSTLE- Herbert W. Armstrong] But ye[THE MINISTRY] are departed out of the way[The way that was PREPARED]; ye[the ministry] have caused many to stumble at the law; ye[again, the ministry] have corrupted the covenant of Levi, saith the LORD of hosts. Therefore have I also made you contemptible and base before all the people, according as ye have not kept [they did not Hold Fast, ie Rev. 3:11] my ways, but have been partial in the law.”[End Quote] John the Baptist prepared the way for Christ’s first coming as a lamb. The book of Malachi was both a message to the Levitical priesthood prior to Christ’s first coming, and ALSO a message to the MINISTRY of God’s Church prior to Christ’s SECOND COMING. And the man who came in the power and spirit of Elijah in this end time was Herbert W. Armstrong. He prepared the way for Christ’s second coming AS THE KING OF KINGS. Now when Christ returns, He will PURIFY the sons of Levi(Malachi 3). Levi, is the MESSENGER of God. His sons, or the ministry trained and ordained under him, “departed out of the way”. Which “way” is that? It was prepared brethren! In Malachi 4, they are told to “remember the law of Moses”. The LAW Moses gave was from GOD! Or THE LAW OF GOD! Now, in Malachi 3:1, a messenger of the Lord is sent to PREPARE THE WAY. That is the messenger who would come in the power and spirit of Elijah, who would restore(Matt.17:11)all things, who would prepare the way shortly before Christ’s second coming. This is none other than Herbert W. Armstrong. Now, the sons of this messenger “departed out of the way”, and was “partial in the law”. Now, to say that Christ was NOT speaking in Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong, and therefore he taught wrongly, “iniquity” rather than righteousness, is heresy, it is SIN against God and is CONTRARY to the Word of God. It causes DIVISION, and has no part within the Church of God! In fact, if someone comes along preaching contrary to what Mr. Armstrong taught, we are to have no company with them and AVOID THEM.
Many of the “sons” of Mr. Armstrong, the ordained ministry found their way into the “United Church of God” organization. Others found their way into other organizations. Is the UCG teaching faithfully what the Apostle of Christ taught them? Are the other COG groups?
Now through Mr. Armstrong Christ restored “all” of the truths that had been originally taught by Christ and the original apostles(Matt. 17:11). What was taught? “All things that pertain to life and godliness”(2 Peter 1:3). Also: “We [the apostles of Christ] have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” (2 Peter 1:19-21) We do WELL to TAKE HEED to what Christ taught through Mr. Armstrong. In a co-worker letter dated January 8, 1958, Mr. Armstrong wrote about “heresy”. [Begin Quote] “This is a very SPECIAL letter about you, personally. There is one point on which some of our Co-Workers may not be clear.   As you know, this great WORK OF GOD is non-denominational. We are not a sect or denomination in the generally accepted sense. Nor are we backed or sponsored by any, or connected with any.   There were several religious sects in Palestine in Jesus’ day. You read of “the sect of the Sadducees,” in Acts 5:17; “the sect of the Pharisees,” in Acts 15:5. There were also the Essenes, the Samaritans, the Herodians and the Zealots.   But Jesus joined none of them! What is the meaning of the word “sect”? According to the Cruden’s Concordance, “this word is generally used to mean a party in religion, differing in belief from the main body. In our old version it is frequently translated heresy, which the religions change to sect.” Webster defines it: “In religion: a party dissenting from an established or parent church.”   Jesus Christ joined no “sect” — but He did found and build the ONE TRUE CHURCH OF GOD. If you will examine the teachings and practices of the sects and denominations of today, and compare them to the teachings and practices of Jesus as recorded in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John — and those taught by the Apostle Paul in the New Testament — you will see that the popular denominations and sects of today do “differ in belief” and that they are very largely “dissenting from the established parent church” as it was established by JESUS CHRIST! Hard to believe — but IT’S TRUE!   The true CHURCH OF GOD, founded and built by Jesus Christ — the Church of which HE is the active, living, directing HEAD — is not a sect or denomination!   I want to make this absolutely clear–so I hope you will find it very simply explained in my autobiography, now running serially in The PLAIN TRUTH: that while this true work of God is non-denominational and non-sectarian, nevertheless God most decidedly does not carry on His great work thru me as an individual, but thru ALL OF US CO-WORKERS WITH CHRIST who today form the collective BODY led and empowered by the Holy Spirit, as God’s instrument by which and thru which HE carries on HIS WORK!   Jesus Christ came to this earth 1900 years ago to start the true WORK OF GOD — carrying His GOSPEL MESSAGE to all the world as a witness! But God works thru human instruments. Jesus did not preach to all the world. He called, taught, educated and trained His disciples, who became apostles. Thousands of others were converted thru them. These formed the true CHURCH that Jesus built — the COLLECTIVE BODY used in the WORK OF GOD, which is carrying HIS GOSPEL to all the world! The work was started by the Holy Spirit working in the individual personal BODY of Jesus. It continued by the same Spirit of God working in the COLLECTIVE body of the apostles, evangelists, pastors and elders and converted believers who became the true CHURCH OF GOD.   But the Church of the apostles’ day did not get to all nations. Persecution set in. They were scattered. By 70 A.D., after the Roman invasion, their organized effort was largely stopped. Only a few local churches remained faithful, but they were not organized for any world-wide evangelism. The prophesied APOSTASY set in. Pagan doctrines and customs drove in their entering wedge. By 150 or 200 A.D. there were more than 50 different sects calling themselves “Christian” — yet all believing different doctrines and practising different customs. They were not the real CHURCH OF GOD — they “dissented” from the teaching and practices of CHRIST — from “the established or parent Church” which Jesus founded.   In the early 4th century, Constantine, Emperor of the Roman Empire, took command over these differing sects that called themselves, falsely, “Christianity.” He called the Nicene Council. He told the leaders of all sects to settle their differences — to decide on some ONE doctrine they could ALL compromise on. That is what came out of the Nicene Council — a doctrine of human compromise that would please the largest number of people! The military General-Emperor, Constantine, used the power of the state police and the army to force that doctrine and practice on the Roman world! As time went on, more and more pagan doctrines and customs were gradually introduced into this false “Christianity.” Millions were martyred for BELIEVING the BIBLE instead of the man-made pagan doctrines that came out of these successive Councils.   Then came the Protestant “Reformation.” Luther, Calvin, Knox, the Wesleys, and other Protestant leaders made changes. They even restored parts of Bible TRUTH. But they also, in their turn, introduced various new doctrines and customs of their own, which were contrary and totally foreign to the Bible and the teachings and examples of Jesus and of Paul. Today there are hundreds of these Protestant sects and denominations. What do they have? Each has its own different combination of doctrines, part of which is Bible TRUTH; another part of which is error often peculiar to each particular sect; and a large part of which — larger than realized — is the same pagan beliefs and customs which came thru the Catholic Church which Emperor Constantine organized.   BUT THEY DO NOT SPEAK THE SAME THING JESUS DID! They do not believe or practice what PAUL taught. They do not, except in small part, BELIEVE THE BIBLE — incredible as that may sound.”[End Quote]

Mr. Armstrong also wrote about the 1974 rebellion:

[Begin Quote]“Those now advocating this Scriptural HERESY want to abolish all authority which Christ as our Head SET in His Church. Their contentions would lead to VOTING — the “democratic way” — the very OPPOSITE of God’s Way. They want to be “LIBERAL,” and soon this liberality would lead into general and widespread SIN. They would become just a few more churches OF THIS WORLD — Satan’s world.   Yes, SATAN is the real author of this rebellion against God’s WORK.”[End Quote from February 25, 1974 brethren Letter] So what does the UCG teach?

UCG’s teaching on the Government of God.

While not ignoring that the organization of the UCG was founded FIRST. They then requested from Joseph Tkach Jr. to keep their ministers on the WCG’s payroll, until the UCG found financial footing. Then their congregations were drawn away from the Worldwide Church of God, (which is “similar” to how GTA started his churches). The UCG the government structure is very different from what was “restored” to the Church through Christ’s apostle Herbert W. Armstrong. The UCG admits this. In the UCG, if a member of a congregation questions a doctrine, or comes up with a new one, he goes to his local pastor, who goes to the Regional pastor, who goes to the Doctrinal committee(which has sub-committees for certain subjects and topics), then it goes to the “council of elders” led by a rotating president, and after that it goes to the “General council of elders” and would need a ¾ majority VOTE or “ballot” to make this change, or new doctrine official. (from what I can gather from UCG Sermon: “Maintaining Doctrinal Integrity Given on Apr 27, 2013 by Roy Holladay”) The UCG is led by an “balloted” council of elders, with a “balloted” rotating presidency. Changes to doctrine, or new doctrine, are gone through the “process” mentioned above.(from what I can gather) It is DEMOCRATIC in form. Much like how the United States congress works in passing laws. The apostle of Christ, Herbert W. Armstrong, having Christ speaking in him, called it “scriptural heresy”. Now whether or not we believe God and His apostle is totally up to us. Many of our readers, some attending with the UCG, were originally called and baptized into the Worldwide Church of God. The Worldwide Church of God wasn’t an organization, but the spiritual body of Jesus Christ. You weren’t baptized into any “organization”. If you start researching into the writings of Herbert W. Armstrong, refreshing yourself with what you were originally taught, you will find that Mr. Armstrong spent a lot of time, sweat and blood, to give to you the mind of Christ on things that are very important to the true Christian. Was his labor in Christ all in vain?
From the UCG’s August 2003 Doctrinal Study Paper labelled “Balloting in the Church”: ” [Begin Quote] ”…every form of government has strengths and weaknesses, including the “one man” structure that had become our norm over the decades.”…”When the United Church of God began, there was a great desire to include a number of people in the governmental structure of the Church rather than relying on one person. Therefore, one of the first issues that had to be addressed was how the new organization would be organized. The system that emerged spread responsibility among the several instead of the few.Because this was a different approach to Church government for most, sincere questions about its biblical validity arose. Some, while not wishing to return to the old government with one man in charge, still felt uncomfortable with the new approach. Due to long held convictions regarding “voting,” many honestly felt, and still feel, uncomfortable when asked to vote on issues or officers. These concerns led the Council of Elders to conduct a doctrinal study on the subject of Church government. The “bottom line” of that study was the recognition that God has used various governmental models throughout history to work with His people. It was noted that the rebellion of Satan took place under a form of government that had been instituted by God Himself. It was also noted that while God allowed other forms of government, mixed results occurred under each form. The paper concluded that God is able to use our current form of government if our hearts are right with Him, and that no form of government will produce the right results if our hearts are not right with Him” [End Quote] Another sermon from UCG minister Frank Dunkel, called “A Proper Paradigm” given July 08, 2017, goes further to say this. He literally ATTACKS what Christ taught through Mr. Armstrong. He states that a paradigm from what Mr. Armstrong taught(using the examples of the Bible Christ used through Mr. Armstrong )would literally BLIND Christians today, and has. We posted something to say about this sermon here: https://wwcg-archives.com/2018/04/13/the-babylonian-paradigm-the-journey-into-darkness/ Another Sermon from UCG minister Donald Ward was evaluated a while back and we posted an article on it. Link:https://wwcg-archives.com/2018/04/08/teaching-their-disagreement-with-god-and-gods-government/ As the UCG doctrinal study paper said, the UCG’s teaching is very different! INDEED IT IS! NOTICE what was actually taught by Christ through His apostle! If we were to accept the UCG’s teaching, we would be REJECTING what Christ gave through His apostle. It is that VASTLY different!We would be breaking the command of Jesus Christ in Rev. 3:11! We would be breaking the law of God, to accept heresy. Did Mr. Armstrong teach heresy? Or is the UCG teaching Heresy? Let’s see what was originally taught. Here is a reading list. Check to see if what the UCG teaches is truly what the restored and taught by Christ’s apostle Herbert W. Armstrong. Are they in “harmony”? Or are they preaching “heresy”? All of them are available on wwcg-archives.com. This is very important! This is not just inclusive to what the UCG preaches and teaches, but what about the other groups? If they are differ in teachings, or doctrines in any way, they are teaching “heresy”. Now if you want to support heresy, then go ahead, but those of us in God’s Church are commanded to get rid of these heresies among us in order to “ALL SPEAK THE SAME THING”, to be in harmony with Jesus Christ and God the Father. We call not just only on the people but ALSO THE MINISTERS, to evaluate whether they be “in the faith”, or if they themselves are preaching and supporting “heresies”. Take this to God. Pray about it. Fast about it. Believe what God says in His Bible. Obey God.
First, please read the article from Mr. Armstrong called “Satan Use and Deceive Me?? Never!!!” published in the Worldwide News, 8th Dec 1980 page 1. In this article, Mr. Armstrong explains the gauge to judge what a true Christian must be doing. Have we strayed from one tiniest point of truth? Let us examine ourselves. If we have strayed a “little” then we have strayed into “darkness” and AWAY from Christ. What did Christ’s apostle, Mr. Armstrong, teach concerning the Government of God, the true gospel, and the organization of God’s true Church, about doctrine and how doctrines come into the Church? Below are a list of his articles(to save space). Please read them to compare with the UCG’s teaching. Article: And Now – Christ Sets Church On God’s Organizational Track (Worldwide News, 23rd April 1979 page 3) Article: And Now Christ Sets Church Back On Track Doctrinally (Worldwide News, 19th Feb 1979 page 1) Sermon: Another Civilization (Given October 2, 1982) Article: The History of the Beginning and Growth of the Worldwide Church of God (Good News Magazine, April 1980) Article: Letter to Brethren, February 25 1974 Sermon: Times and Seasons (Given March 15 1980) Book: Mystery of the Ages, Chapter Six- Mystery of the Church Article: “Recent History of the Philadelphia Era of the Worldwide Church of God” (Worldwide News – Special Edition, 24th June 1985, Page 1) Article: Shall We All Leave THE CHURCH OF GOD and Join “THE CHURCH OF PEOPLE”? (Good News Magazine September 1980) Article: HOW CHRIST GIVES THE CHURCH ITS BELIEFS (Worldwide News, 20th Nov 1978 page 1) Article: Why Churches Are Divide (Plain Truth Magazine March 1982) Article: How Did You Come to Know the Truth? (The Good News October 1979 ) Article: God Commands We Avoid Certain Ones (Feb 25, 1980 Worldwide News) Article: CHRIST NOW MOVES TO PUT GOD’S GOVERNMENT BACK ON THE TRACK(Good News Magazine September 1979) Article: CHRIST NOW PUTS CHURCH BACK ON GOD’S FINANCIAL TRACK! (Good News Magazine- January 1979) Article: Moving Forward “on God’s Track” Link:https://wwcg-archives.com/2018/01/06/moving-forward-on-gods-track-2/ Article: God brought me back for a purpose Link:https://wwcg-archives.com/2017/11/10/god-brought-me-back-to-life-for-a-purpose/   Let’s all get back on the track brethren!]]>

The Babylonian Paradigm – the Journey into Darkness

PLEASE NOTE: This is NOT from the UCG(United Church of God).

This is an exposé addressing the CONTRARY teachings the United Church of God teaches in contrast with what Jesus Christ taught us through His Apostle Mr. Herbert W Armstrong. – WWCG-ARCHIVES.COM STAFF

2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2Pe 2:2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. I recently read a transcript of a sermon given by Frank Dunkle, a minister in the UCG on July 8 2017 speaking on “Paradigms” or our Viewpoint or “Structure” on God’s Word. Titled “A Proper Paradigm”. Now, I was reading this doing research on what the UCG taught about God’s Government, in CONTRAST with what we have learned through the Apostle Mr. Herbert W Armstrong, this sermon was in the list of articles and sermons mentioning God’s Government. To say the least, this sermon REVEALS A LOT into what the UCG teaches and/or fails to teach!   [caption id="attachment_3830" align="aligncenter" width="150"]A Proper Paradigm by Frank Dunkle Frank Dunkle of the United Church of God[/caption] So as I went through this man’s sermon’s transcript, word for word, paragraph by paragraph, it is plain the man is INTENTIONALLY destroying The Church of God’s faith in what God says in His Word. His intention was to INTRODUCE false doctrines and seeds of DOUBT, all the time speaking evil of the WAY OF TRUTH(God’s Government). His structure of the sermon is INTENTIONALLY against Mr. Armstrong and anyone who believes and HOLDS FAST to what we were given by Jesus Christ. He starts off talking about the “Fifth Monarchists” a splinter group of the Puritan Church of England in the 1600’s, which is a picture he uses to picture Herbert Armstrong and the Worldwide Church of God holding Fast to the Teachings and doctrines we were given. He states that this “group(The Fifth Monarchist’s)” held the same belief on Daniel 2 as “we”(the UCG) has, but they believe that the Stone made without hand is the Puritan Church and not the Kingdom of God. His point was to show that this group held a belief that perverted their whole outlook of God’s Word. And he does this equating Herbert W Armstrong and the FAITHFUL Church backing and supporting Jesus Christ through the Apostle as a individual and as a group with a PERVERTED outlook or PARADIGM! Blinded by one central belief which God commands in His Word. Well, that is according to this minister. Would I say of Christ? No, I wouldn’t. I would like to call to remembrance HOW Mr Armstrong was converted. I recall Mr. Armstrong talking about his agenda when he heard Mrs. Armstrong started keeping the fanatical SABBATH! And how he went out to PROVE HER WRONG. He said he finally came to a pamphlet of a dissenter from the Seventh Day Adventists where they said that the Sabbath was done away and nailed to the cross, as a argument against the Sabbath! The verse this pamphlet was speaking on was in Colossians 2. But Mrs. Armstrong prayed all night and didn’t sleep and when Mr. Armstrong woke up she asked him to go to the library and look up EVERY Greek Word of those verses concerning the Sabbaths, because God had shown her there was a mistranslation in there. So he did, and found that the verses didn’t do AWAY with the Sabbath, but only the PHYSICAL RITUALS and SACRIFICES were done away. Now, this was the START of Mr. Armstrong’s Conversion. This was the First Scripture that proved him WRONG, and God right! This man from the United Church of God(UCG) preaches that if anyone STARTS from Colossians 2, that it would CHANGE our paradigm or Viewpoint that would PERVERT the TRUTH found in God’s Word! It is no coincidence that he would start with what STARTED the conversion of Herbert W Armstrong, as we go further through the sermon. He does say that Mr. Armstrong has a DIFFERENT view than what the UCG has. In this, I believe him. It is different. He then goes into ANOTHER point to support this Paradigm of his(which he says Mr. Armstrong has) and that is the Government set through Moses. Talking about Jethro, Moses’s Father in Law. I quote the minister giving this sermon. [Quote] He said, “Listen now to my voice,” this is verse 19, “I’ll give you counsel, and God will be with you: stand you before God for the people, so that you may bring difficulties to God. And you’ll teach them statutes and laws, show them the way that they must walk, and the work they must do. Moreover, select from all the people able men, such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness; place such over them to be rulers of thousands, rulers of hundreds, rulers of fifties, and rulers of tens. And let them judge the people at all times. And it’ll be that every great matter they’ll bring to you, but every small matter, they’ll judge themselves.” And it goes on to say that Moses, he did it. You know, and we wonder, it doesn’t describe him talking to God about it, but we know another place as it says Moses talked to God very often. Probably, he got God’s approval. And they set this up, a very effective form of administration and government. So effective that many armies, most armies use this, so do many organizations.[End Quote] Notice his point in saying MOSES ”did it”. That it was Moses’s decision. And then he questions if God approved of it or not. Now we know that God chose Moses, and led Moses, look at what happened when Miriam and Aaron when they withstood God through Moses. So God DID institute His Government in ISRAEL, but ISRAEL did not obey. Mr. Armstrong can be found showing every scripture backing up that it was GOD, not MOSES who instituted His Government! Notice the focus of this man, his focus is on the MAN as the one deciding. When Mr. Armstrong focused on GOD who decided, not MAN! Mr. Herbert W Armstrong – God decides(The Tree of Life). The Minister from UCG – MAN decides(The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil). Where does God fit in with this? This is another instance where it PROVES God was with Mr. Herbert W Armstrong and who he IS NOT with! IT also proves Mr. Armstrong was a TRUE Minister of Jesus Christ, in contrast with the man speaking in this sermon. The very next words is this, [Quote]And it would be possible to look at this and say, “Okay, that’s my paradigm for how every organization has to be formed. I can view all other aspects of administration and leadership through it.” If I have that as my central focus, I’m going to look at in the New Testament for that type of structure. You know, and I would probably see Peter as being outspoken and at the forefront and say, “He must have been the chief apostle.”[End Quote] Here he speaks AGAINST the Doctrine of Binding and Loosing, and how Peter was the Chief Apostle. He goes and says that looking at what Mr. Armstrong taught would PERVERT our outlook on the Bible. Again is he speaking EVIL of God’s Government (The WAY OF TRUTH) in God’s Church? Read 2 Peter 2. He then states, [Quote]We know the Catholic Church did exactly that.[End Quote] Equating Mr. Armstrong and God’s Church as the CATHOLIC CHURCH called Babylon the Great, The GREAT WHORE, the Mother of HARLOTS! He goes on and says, [quote]Within the Church of God in previous decades, we did something similar. We designated an apostle as the unquestionable leader of the church under Jesus Christ, of course, and we always said that.[End Quote] Again he equates the Government of God restored to God’s Church through Christ’s Apostle as 1) Man’s ideas, as he said about Moses. 2) That the start of Mr. Armstrong’s conversion PERVERTED his outlook or Paradigm of God’s Word. Which he stated leads to “The Primacy of Peter” teaching, which he states the Catholic Church teaches. Mr. Armstrong showed from God’s Word that Peter was CHIEF Apostle! But he was not a POPE as the Catholic Church teaches. This man says listening to that, or having that outlook PERVERTS our outlook and foundational Lens we look at God’s Word with! Can we not see WHO this man works for? It certainly is not God. I have also noticed the LIBERAL approach to doctrine, saying one thing at one hand, such as a False teaching, then covering it up with the truth. He says all of this about Mr. Armstrong and the Government in the Church which was restored to the Church and then states “I’m not saying or implying that the form of church government we used was wrong”. This is in order so that he has a backup plan, a way out when someone points out his flagrant error. When we would point out that specific error, he would state the latter statement dancing around the truth and ERROR he’s teaching. That is LIBRERALISM, the Way of SATAN! You can read and hear Mr. Armstrong and many others in the Church speak about How Satan uses LIBERALISM as a greased hog at a county fair. You can never get it pinned down. It is an ATTITUDE of reasoning INSTEAD of using God’s Holy Spirit! Read Mr. Armstrong’s article “What is a Liberal”. Listen to David Hulme’s Sermon on “Liberalism”. As well as Gerald Waterhouse’s sermons, he always has something to say about Liberalism. He thinks he has a way out from God. But God already knows, and he cannot escape God. Are we approaching doctrines/teachings/TRUTH in this manner? Make sure we are NOT! This LIBERAL minister goes on saying, [Quote] No, it had some problems(the Government through Mr. Armstrong), but it also had great advantages, and it followed a biblical model. I have no criticism of that form of organization(again, he’s trying to make a way out from the statements he’s previously stated). “But what I would criticize is adopting a paradigm that says, “That’s the only form of organization that could ever be valid.” the only thing the Bible would support. I think if I did that, I would be blinding myself to some other things that are within the Bible. For instance, Acts 15.[End Quote] He’s saying that God has more THAN ONE form of Government. The government restored through Mr. Armstrong however is looked down upon, with seeds of doubt placed on it, saying God DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY “all the time”, “he has many forms”. So he’s rebelling against God’s Government. Saying God has MANY PATHS, not ONE WAY. 2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2Pe 2:2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. The Way of TRUTH is God’s GOVERNMENT! He’s saying there are MORE than ONE WAY of GOD! When Scripture says CONTRARY! It does NOT say WAYS of Truth!

Joh 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

Notice what he says! Thinking that God has only ONE WAY, Only ONE Government as our CORE of Beliefs… [Quote]I think if I did that, I would be blinding myself to some other things that are within the Bible. For instance, Acts 15.[End Quote] Here he goes and starts with HIS IDEA of what the Government they have in UCG, pretending it is God’s, saying Acts 15 is a COUNCIL led Church. That THEIR Government is found in the Scripture. SO in saying this he is saying what Mr. Armstrong taught us would only pervert our outlook on the Word of God and God’s Government. Saying he was BLIND to the TRUTH, following his OWN IDEAS, Personal Opinions of What the Government of God is supposed to be. He goes into Acts 15, starting with Verse 6 where it says “Peter Rose up”. [Quote]What we see here in this story though is not Peter presiding as chief apostle and then making a ruling. We see him so far of one voice, a very significant and influential voice giving testimony as part of this conference.[End Quote] Here again SPEAKS AGAINST Peter being the Chief APOSTLE! When God’s Word shows that he WAS! [Quote]”He was just a voice of testimony among many at a Church conference”[End Quote] Another point of REBELLION! He then goes on saying here that Peter gave his opinion, or testimony on the problem. Then Paul and Barnabas did. Again he goes and states [Quote]After that in verse 13, we see the apostle James. “After they had become silent, James answered, and said, ‘Men and brethren, listen to me. ’” James answers and he’s going to give a proposal. “And then it would seem…” actually, I want to skip down to verse 19, his proposal. “therefore I judge that we shouldn’t trouble those who are among the Gentiles who are turning to God, but write to them that they abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, and from things strangled by blood. ’”[End Quote] He is saying Peter didn’t make the decision but JAMES. Saying James answered the problem. He then SKIPS verse 14, where it says SIMEON(or PETER) declared! He(James) was acknowledging Peter’s decision! Just as Mr. Armstrong taught us! Read it in CONTEXT
Act 15:13 And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me: Act 15:14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.
He then sums up the “conference” in Acts 15 as [Quote]And it goes on, and the conference then makes a decision.”[End Quote] That is NOT True! Peter DECLARED, as the verse he skipped stated, not the Conference. James confirmed the decision. The Conference AGREED with Peter’s decision! Again speaking against God’s Government! He then reasons how VOTING was in the Church(when it wasn’t) with [Quote]. It’s possible that in this conference, they might have taken some type of a vote or a consensus, or, you know, they discussed this. We don’t really know for sure. But we do know that today, the United Church of God follows an organizational structure closer to what we see in Acts than what we read about in Exodus 18 .[End Quote] That again is FALSE. They follow something CONTRARY to what we read in Acts 15! They say they MAY have voted in this conference. That they do not really know that they did or not. But to say the UCG has a CLOSER(Not the SAME, but CLOSER) Government to Acts 15 than what God through Moses organized in Exodus 18, is FAR FROM the TRUTH! Just remember and be MINDFUL of what the Apostle of Jesus Christ taught us! Remember a Good Counterfeit is “CLOSER” to the original! He states [Quote]As I said, “I think that should be a part of that paradigm.” But the particular paradigm of it’s got to be this form of organization or nothing at all I think has caused and maintained division within the Body of Christ. It’s not hard to think of other things that can come up, other ideas, other interpretations that could cause division or maintain division. You know, there are some that are shaping people’s paradigms today.[End Quote] Again stating this AGAINST what was taught through the Apostle and the Worldwide Church of God! Further on down he states, Trying to give REASON why he is saying what he is saying, [Quote]I thought maybe it’s more of a cautionary tale.(Notice: TALE not TRUTH) When I think of those Fifth Monarchists and what they got involved in. And as I say, it can be harmful when you adopt one very narrow point of view through which you see everything else especially if that one point is not correct.[End Quote] Here he equates Mr. Armstrong and the Church of God(Worldwide Church of God) in the same boat with the “Fifth Monarchists” a Church of this world, having nothing to do with God’s Church. Saying that Mr. Armstrong and the Church were BLIND to the Truth of God’s Word because they believe what the Bible says.(Not what they are saying, they are saying that he wasn’t teaching God’s viewpoint but his own, and that it came from the “Fifth Monarchists” a splinter from the Quakers(The Puritan’s), that we have a perverted outlook and viewpoint if we keep(HOLD FAST) to what we were taught by Jesus Christ through His Apostle!). Here he definitely says God’s Government that was restored to the Church(Through Christ’s Apostle, Mr. Herbert W Armstrong) was in ERROR, and NOT truth! Yet he goes on to say that it is [Quote]”Not wrong to necessarily have differing opinions on them.” [End Quote]to backtrack and cover his attack of God and God’s Government. So when you address it, he will quote the “Excuse” rather than dealing with the False statement and accusation. Within in seconds he continues, [Quote]I think though it could be harmful to myself and to others in the Church if I allow that one of those topics to become the center of a paradigm by which I view and just interpret everything else.[End Quote] He is saying it is HARMFUL to have God’s Government as the CENTRAL point of our beliefs. For that is the Subject he is talking about and destroying here in his sermon. He then continues to bring up other points to HOLD UP his attack, building the trap ONE point at a time, in order to justify his error and falsehoods! He states, [Quote]Imagine how it might lead to some imbalanced thinking and actions.[End Quote] Here he equates the point he has been making about having God’s Government as our central core of our belief as being “imbalanced thinking and actions”. Then he goes and turns this issue he is speaking on, (God’s Government being EVERYTHING, but nothing to him) as some KOOKY ritualistic nonsense, based upon PERSONAL opinion and ideas. But was it? This is the COMMON teaching in the UCG(as well as other groups) One scripture he uses is Luke 10:25. This verse shows that GOD must be central to our Beliefs. That God’s Government and Laws should be central and the CORE of our beliefs. BUT,… BUT, he uses this not in the terms of God’s Government, but just God. Sort of like by just accepting God(or Jesus) is all they need. And other point he males. Now was the Pharisees Following God? Or was their RIGHTEOUSNESS their own? Jesus Christ answers that himself throughout the Gospels. But this man is teaching that THEY KNEW GOD and had worshiping God down pat! Notice [Quote]We can guess and argue because the answer isn’t given, but part of me thinks perhaps if this fellow was representing the Pharisees, I think they had that part down. they’ve learned their lesson from the Babylonian captivity to not worship idols and not take God’s name in vain. I think they had a lot to learn about loving their brother as themselves.[End Quote] Now does this line up with Scripture? Does one who is SELF righteous(as the Pharisees were known as having) REALLY putting God first above all things? He is saying the Pharisees kept the first FOUR commandments, but needed to keep the last six. I notice he references this type of thing ALONG with the previous statements AGAINST the Government of God restored through Christ’s Apostle. Is he saying Christ’s Apostle was a hypocrite, a PHARISEE? By putting together all the points he is making one can come to that conclusion. But again he makes several statements, a way out from the confrontation of these false statements, a backup plan to cover his assets. Shows what spirit rules him, it certainly is not God’s. [Quote]So rather than worry about… “Are the first four commandments out of the included?” I think the Ten Commandments come and go as a unit, and we see that pretty clearly in the Bible. But we could pause and give some thought to what else did Jesus not say was vital for having eternal life? As I said, I think the first four of the Ten Commandments are implied in what Jesus said, “If you want to have life, keep the commandments.”[End Quote] Notice he states something AGAINST what we were taught, say that the Pharisees obeyed God and was in line with God. Then he covers it with the Truth. That what Christ was referring to was the WHOLE ten commandments, showing WHAT commandments he was referring to. Which is what Mr. Armstrong taught. But doing this Covering the ACUSATION and FALSE teaching with the Truth! The same way Satan does! Twisting the scriptures! Accusing the Brethren. [Quote]What did he not say you have to do to have life? How about being able to correctly calculate the 70-weeks prophecy? Nope. Properly pronouncing the Hebrew version of God’s name? Nope. Wearing tassels on your garments, never trimming your beard? He doesn’t mention that, nor does Christ mention church government. [End Quote] Here he equates CHURCH(God’s) GOVERNMENT as physical things such as “calculating prophecy” and “tassels”. He says Church Government doesn’t matter because it wasn’t mentioned. With this way of thinking, then why does he believe that Christ was referring to the first four of the Ten Commandments? Because they too wasn’t mentioned. So in this, IF there is NO “Thus sayeth the Lord”, on Church Government, then it is up to OUR OWNSELVES to decide on it. Because it doesn’t “mention it”. He skims over the point Christ was making. “KEEPING” means walking, OBEYING what God says. That means surrendering to God’s GOVERNMENT! But he does not make the point to say that we must OBEY or KEEP God’s Government. He only teaches that the “Ten Commandment” in themselves is the central point. Missing the SPIRITUAL point that goes with the Ten Commandments. The point that we MUST KEEP THEM. Obeying GOD’S Commandments. God’s Government being the CORE of the LAW OF GOD! [Quote]If I let any other thing, any other idea take center place in my thinking, then I’m doing what the Fifth Monarchists did. I’m making a mistake. I might become blinded. I’m setting myself up to become intoxicated by some other ideology or some philosophy. that’s not what Jesus said to do to have life[End Quote] Again attacking God’s Government, and saying Mr. Armstrong was BLIND and intoxicated with some other ideology and philosophy other than God’s! Equating him to the Puritan splinter called the “Fifth Monarchists”. Yet as we go through this sermon, he states the condemning statements towards God’s Apostle and CHURCH and continuing in between these statements statements saying the exact opposite. Whitewashing the falsehoods, creating a SYNTHESIS of both teachings. Incorporating the accusations and character assassination of Mr. Armstrong and all of us HOLDING FAST, and his falsehood of God’s Government being MANY, many paths instead of ONE PATH, ONE WAY. He has now watered it down further than he has already to that ANYONE just keeping the Commandments, and not knowing the ANNUAL SABBATHS, and everything else God’s says, that they will come up in the first resurrection. So that today, in an age where ALL TRUTH is restored, God’s Government, God’s Laws, God’s Holy Days, ALL THINGS as Jesus Christ says, restoring through the End-Time Elijah Mr. Herbert W Armstrong, that you DON’T need anything else but the verses concerning the Ten Commandments that you will GET into God’s Kingdom. When everything else ties into the Ten commandments and God’s Government, all the teachings tie into each other, that somehow anyone missing the majority of the message taught through the Apostle will still make it. That is if it isn’t being taught, as he stated AGAINST Mr. Armstrong and the Church and its beliefs. At the very end of his sermon he ends with [Quote]But one of the points I want to leave us with, we have the right principles to shape how we understand the Bible, how to conduct our lives, how we look ahead to our future. Now, it’s possible. We could get caught up in an incorrect paradigm. We could get intoxicated with ideas that would get us out of perspective, lead to bad decisions. We could do as the Fifth Monarchists did. You know, their misunderstanding of one point of one prophecy, led them to engage in some activities that the Bible condemns. As I said, they looked at one first and it distorted the other. I don’t think members of God’s Church are likely to get caught up in rebellion, civil war, and regicide. I hope not. But members of God’s Church could get intoxicated with the perceived prophetic understanding, with a captivating doctrinal understanding. And being caught up in something like that could lead a Christian to separating from the Body of Christ[End Quote] “We have the RIGHT Principles…” As in contrast to what we had “WRONG” with Mr. Armstrong and the Truth back then. That is how the DEVIL WORKS! Finishing, [Quote] It could lead to causing division, alienation, even perhaps if you became disillusioned to abandoning the way of life that we know is the way of life.[End Quote] Notice what “WE KNOW”, as if WE are the CENTRAL source of knowledge. This is CONTRARY to Scripture. In the End the point that any Spiritual led Christian who can discern the spirits, will come out seeing the minister, as many under Tkach Sr and then Jr done, that the WHOLE SERMON was to attack God and His Government which was restored through Christ’s Apostle Mr. Herbert W Armstrong, Condemning Mr. Armstrong and any of us still HOLDING FAST to those VITAL TRUTHS and God’s Government which we were given. People that are convinced to this “church”(UCG) and its doctrines/teachings as this minister was teaching, will come out saying “Oh he gave a wonderful sermon on how God should be our focus” when the exact opposite happened! Surely he is a WOLF in Sheep’s clothing! 2Pe 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2Pe 2:2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.


Teaching their disagreement with God and God's Government

PLEASE NOTE: This is NOT from the UCG(United Church of God).

This is an exposé addressing the CONTRARY teachings the United Church of God teaches in contrast with what Jesus Christ taught us through His Apostle Mr. Herbert W Armstrong. – WWCG-ARCHIVES.COM STAFF

Donald Ward through a sermon called “God’s Government and Organization” (https://www.ucg.org/sermons/church-government-and-organization-is-there-authority-in-the-church-and-is-the-church), around the 10 minute mark, begins speaking about who has authority to “Bind and loosen”. He begins immediately to explain how the Catholic’s misuse this scripture to keep their false doctrine of the infallibility of the Pope called the “Petrine doctrine. Now, what did God’s apostle teach? Jesus Christ worked through a man of flesh, named Herbert W Armstrong, Christ’s chosen apostle, and the Work He(Jesus Christ) did through Herbert Armstrong was the Work of God not of flesh, done and performed through the Holy Spirit. So what is the official Church doctrine concerning WHO can bind and loosen doctrine in the Church of God? Notice: https://wwcg-archives.com/2018/04/08/the-doctrine-of-binding-and-loosing/ That is the official statement from Jesus Christ’s apostle Herbert W Armstrong. Donald Ward claims that [Quote]“for a short time in Worldwide there was a type of embracing of the Petrine doctrine. Thankfully that didn’t last.”[End Quote] Is he referring to Tkach and the ministry after Mr. Armstrong’s death? Or is Mr. Ward referring to Mr. Armstrong and the Church’s official doctrine on who has authority to bind and loosen doctrine in God’s Church? Because Mr. Armstrong has been accused falsely of embracing the “Petrine doctrine” of the Catholic Church, because he taught that only the apostles of Christ has the authority and power to bind and loosen doctrine. Who is Mr.Ward condemning in his statements so far? Who is he accusing? And remember, the accuser of the brethren is Satan the Devil. Herbert Armstrong is a brother in Christ. He is an Apostle. Then Mr.Ward says ” Some believe that He gave the keys to the Kingdom to the apostles only, it would really believe that Christ gave the keys to the Kingdom to only AN APOSTLE. There can be no new revelation today because apparently there is no apostle on the scene…If it were true that the key was only given to AN APOSTLE, then the keys to the Kingdom of heaven have been lost since they were only given to an apostle and not to the Church. Thankfully we know and as we shall see Christ gave the keys of the Kingdom to the Church of God. ” So Mr.Armstrong is being condemned now. And Mr.Ward is speaking directly against Church doctrine set in the Church of God, by Christ, through His chosen apostle Herbert Armstrong. Now who’s word has weight? Herbert W Armstrong, God’s apostle? Or Dr. Donald Ward, someone who is arguing against God’s apostle and disagreeing with God’s Word and Jesus Christ? Why does Donald Ward condemn God’s chosen apostle, and everyone who is holding fast to what he taught, as if a follower of Catholic doctrine, The Catholic Church being the Great Whore who will suffer the plagues and Wrath of God? Herbert W Armstrong and the true Church of God is on God’s side or they would not be the true Church of God and Mr. Armstrong would not be an apostle of Christ! CHRIST IS LEADING THEM STILL! The Catholic Church is a Church of Satan. A Counterfeit of Satan the Devil. It’s doctrines, the doctrines of demons. Why is Mr.Ward placing Mr.Armstrong and God’s true Church with the Catholic Church, calling good evil? Aren’t they on opposite ends? God says ” Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!”(Isaiah 5:20) Mr.Ward says Christ is holding the keys and has given the keys to the Church. He refers to Revelation 3:7 and yes Christ has the keys to the Kingdom! Mr.Ward says Christ has given them to the Church not to just the apostle. But the Church, as Mr.Armstrong explains, receives them through the apostle! And that is what Donald Ward is speaking against. Jesus Christ was the messenger of the new covenant(Mal. 3:1-5) who brought a message. What is that message? Mark 1:14. Jesus Christ gave that gospel, that message from God the Father, to His apostles. Jesus Christ said in prayer to God the Father, ” I have given them thy word;…Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.”(John 17:14, 17-21) Mr. Armstrong’s article “How Christ gives Church its beliefs” goes into detail on how only the apostles had the authority to bind and loosen doctrine. It was NOT GIVEN TO THE CHURCH AS A WHOLE, NOR TO THE LOWER RANK MINISTERS! It was they(the apostles), who had the open door to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ! The Church as a whole did not go out! They backed up the apostles and they supported the apostles, while the apostles went out and preached the gospel! But Dr.Ward does not agree with Mr.Armstrong and the Word of God, and thus he disagrees with Jesus Christ and God the Father. Mr.Armstrong preached God’s Word. He did not preach a false doctrine of the Catholic Church. The Church backs up and support the apostles of Christ, THEY DO NOT ARGUE, OR CONTEND AGAINST, The apostle’s preaching, and they do not attempt to teach others their disagreement! Here is a quote from Mr.Armstrong from his article “Watering down or building solidly up?“. “You, dear ministers and wives, did not have to go through what God put me through. I learned TRUTH a doctrine at a time. Through me it was handed to all of you “on a platter” – all together. “Now if you don’t understand and believe that, I wonder what you are doing in Christ’s ministry. “The living CHRIST put HIS TRUTH into God’s Church through me. “You have of your own will been drawn into this Church by the living Christ – to HELP me in proclaiming this GOOD NEWS to the world. IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT WORK IN THE WORLD – ESPECIALLY AT THIS CRISIS TIME JUST BEFORE THE COMING OF CHRIST TO SET UP THE KINGDOM OF GOD! “It is far more important than being a captain in the army in time of WAR! If you did not agree with the military regulations and orders and openly proclaimed your dissidence to those under you, you would be court-martialed and probably shot! Yet disagreement and contrary teaching of those under you in GOD’S CHURCH is, in God’s eyes, FAR MORE SERIOUS! “Now I am not, of course, going to order any firing squads. But the LEAST you can do, if you cannot wholeheartedly accept and loyally teach the truths Jesus Christ put into His Church through His chosen apostle, is to resign and LEAVE THE CHURCH! “God commands in His Word that we all “SPEAK THE SAME THING.” That “same thing” He put into His Church through His apostle. If you can’t agree on any point, you may bring your disagreement privately to your superior or directly to me – but to teach disagreement to the children of GOD is the height of disloyalty! “For a year now, God has been SETTING HIS CHURCH BACK ON HIS TRACK! That action continues!”[End Quote] ————————–——————- READ THE ARTICLE: Would you ACCUSE JESUS CHRIST? by Herbert W Armstrong, and read again how doctrine is put into the Church of God, and how those who preach contrary to the doctrine already put into the Church by Christ through His apostles SHOULD BE MARKED AND PUT OUT and is doubly cursed by God for preaching against Him, and for leading others to join them in their dissidence and rebellion. Here is that article: http://wwnews.wwcg-archives.com/1973-1979/WWN%201979%20%28Prelim%20No%2020%29%20Nov%2012.pdf#page=3 Donald Ward is preaching against the doctrines of Jesus Christ, against the teaching of God’s apostle, teaching others to disobey God, forsake Christ, reject true & sound doctrine. He is not of the true Church of God brethren. He is a minister who has turned from the faith once delivered, who is bringing a different gospel, and a different Jesus Christ, and a different spirit, led by Satan the Devil to deceive you. So Hold Fast to what has been taught to you by Christ through His apostle Herbert Armstrong! LET NO MAN LEAD YOU ASTRAY!!! By the command of Jesus Christ we are commanded to MARK HIM, and avoid him.(Rom. 16:17-18) Those attending the UCG organization, must beware, and must greatly consider God’s command, and obey God’s Command in scripture. This is not a small matter. It is a matter of great spiritual importance, that if you ignore or take God’s command lightly, it will cost you your spiritual and eternal life! Donald Ward is the chairman of the Council of Elders in the UCG. This is what the UCG ministry is teaching. WATCH OUT! This might offend some. But God’s Word is sure, and we must be obedient to God, and we must obey God above all, if we truly are true Christians. In Christ’s service, Herbert W Armstrong TV ARCHIVES staff, wwcg-archives.com staff]]>

The Spirit of Whoredoms – The New Apostle of The "Church of God"??

By Archive Staff

How does God conduct His Church, and His Work? How does Doctrine come into the Church?? And in contrast HOW is doctrine decided on in the Various CHURCHES OF GOD??

Whilst doing some research into the STP(Systematic Theology Project), we found some common principles and teachings being taught by many today.

We must first REMEMBER God all throughout the New Testament teaches that God sets doctrines, sets guidelines, and Policies THROUGH the Apostles! Mr. Armstrong taught this ALL THE TIME! This is what the Bible teaches, it is of course what Mr. Armstrong taught. Mr. Armstrong wrote articles about liberals watering down doctrines, and changing what Jesus Christ taught through His chosen Apostle Herbert W Armstrong. Many left saying “I didn’t leave the Church, but only a man, and an organization” You can hear that echoing throughout Gerald Waterhouse sermons about those who left embittered from the Church. God’s Church has God’s Government. Herbert Armstrong was chosen and placed as an Apostle in that Government, and the Church is COMMANDED to hold fast to those teachings that was given through THAT Government of GOD! But Liberals, False ministers teach that you don’t NEED God’s Government as it was RESTORED! They teach you can decide what is taught WITHOUT God’s Government!(Even though they say they are not rebelling against that Government, they are) They believe They Can DECIDE Without Herbert W Armstrong, WITHOUT GOD”S APOSTLE! Without doing it God’s Way! All COGS teach this. “You don’t need to hold fast to what was taught by God through Christ’s Chosen Apostle, through God’s Government, just Believe what I teach OVER what God teaches”. Of course I’m paraphrasing, they would not openly be honest about it(some are however). Mr. Armstrong called the Liberal’s of the 1970’s project (the “STP”), a devise of Satan the devil. Why? And is it being USED today? Is it’s PRINCIPLES being used today? Like I said above, God sets the Doctrines and policies of the Church through THE APOSTLE! That is God’s Word on the matter.  But what does the STP do then? How is it relevant today? Notice on page 5-6 of the Systematic Theological Project, it says…

[Quote]“…there will be material–for example, on Christian living and Church organization–that is not ordinarily found in academic systematic theologies. Some of these subjects could be classified as administrative practices or Church traditions rather than doctrines and beliefs. The point is that everything included is given as guidelines for the ministry. “[End Quote]

NOTICE! The STP was created to “give guidelines for the ministry”. Garner Ted Armstrong Later said in life that the STP “was created to create an official volume of Church Doctrines for the Lay members to read, Non-members(the public) and the ministers”. Remember this was created WHILE God’s APOSTLE, Mr. Herbert W Armstrong, was alive and completing the commission given to him by Christ! So it was created to be the policies setter, the guideline decision maker. The Last Word on Doctrine! If anyone had a question about anything the Church taught, they would look it up in the volume. It was created to REMOVE God’s Apostle! It was created to remove God’s Government from God’s Church! To Cut God out of the PICTURE! God’s Apostle was the ONE Christ set in the Church and through whom He SET doctrines and policies. If they wanted to make a decision about doctrine or policy, INSTEAD of going to what was taught through the Apostle(As God COMMANDS in God’s Government and CHURCH) they would go to the STP for the decision. The STP stated “It is written by men for men”. So instead of Going to the Apostle, they would go to a Paper that was “written by men for men”, instead of going through God’s Channels. This was created to SUBVERT God’s Apostle! STP basically means “man decides”. Exactly what Laodicean means. What is being done through the COG’S Today? Look at what happened when Mr. Armstrong stopped the STP, and kicked out those behind it, such as his son Garner Ted Armstrong(GTA), and Robert Kuhn. The dissidents that was kicked out started a State takeover of God’s Church! The State Took over the Church’s operations and “Fired” God’s Apostle!(not really, as time proved). They acted out the VERY Purpose the STP was to do, but openly, by force! When the STP was the silent fifth Columnist from within, undercover. Don’t think it wasn’t! Now look at the COG’S today! Look at the principles of the STP and apply to what many are doing today! Are they not playing out the principles of the STP, if not the STP itself to a “T”?? All throughout their operations and actions they subvert God’s Apostle! They say you are worshiping the man, when you post Articles of God’s Apostle, or even consider them as teaching from God! How absurd! This is the STP in OVER TIME! You can see the STP being implemented throughout the COG’S! Some may not do it on paper, but they do it Spiritually and in principle. They don’t look to God’s Anointed, Christ’s Apostle, Mr. Herbert W Armstrong as the one God worked through. They replaced themselves, their literature, their NEW teachings as the NEW APOSTLE! Some even going so far as calling themselves an Apostle! All in all, They reject God’s Government! The STP was said to be the Summary of what the Church taught. The “GO TO” for doctrine and Teaching! The New Apostle! But after looking closer, Mr. Armstrong saw what Jesus Christ shown him about this conspiracy against God and His Church, and he found heresies, teachings contrary to the TRUTH Jesus Christ had given him to the Church all throughout the project! Mr. Armstrong stopped and Banned the Project. After Mr. Armstrong died, the STP was started again, under the leadership of the Council of Elders. Now, you see how it has spread to the Churches today! Where did the Council of Elders splinter to? Take a look at what is being done TODAY! We have people creating websites called “HWA Library” or the like, but when looking closer you find they push CONTRARY beliefs, and their website pointing sincere people toward COG corporations and their teachings. They even went to incorporate to collect Tithes and Offerings in order for US, the Scattered Brethren of God’s Church to HELP FUND their NEW FOUND IDOL! Such is “HWA Library .com”! They have Mr. Armstrong’s literature and Church material, but MIXED within is LCG messages, Global COG messages and they repeatedly promote Garner Ted Armstrong’s sermons and articles, the very thing included in the STP! The very thing that got the Church off the Track from Jesus Christ and God the Father! They, utilize the principles and doctrines of the STP and created a library as a topical collection of the Doctrines and Church materials. But in reality a tool to WATER DOWN the True Doctrine! The Site is not pure! This is the STP at work. The Philadelphia Church of God(PCG) has utilized the program! They produce Mr. Armstrong’s Literature while at the same time CHANGING the Books and BOOKLETS, and having their own literature that TEACHES CONTRARY to what Mr. Armstrong taught! The Living Church of God(LCG)Utilizes the Project. They TOO have rewritten the Books and booklets. And they only mention Mr. Armstrong when it is to make them look good. To show how close they were to God’s Apostle. What does that have to do with the price of putty? Just because one eats cornflakes with an apostle of Jesus Christ does not make him an Faithful minister teaching what we were given through the Apostle! If that was the case, Simon Magus must be an AUTHORITARIAN on Jesus Christ and the Original Apostles then, because he was baptized by them. He spoke with the Apostle Peter even! HOGWASH! The Restored Church of God(RCG) utilizes and teaches the STP’s Principles! The United Church of God Utilizes the principles of the Systematic Theological Project! They have created their own STP, Their APOSTLE, “created by men for men”. They wrote their OWN literature, to POINT to instead of God’s APOSTLE and what CHRIST restored through him! That is why NOT ONE OF THEM stood for PRESERVING the Apostles’s teaching and writings! The only ones appearing to do so, were only in it to CHANGE and CONTROL the materials themselves to their NEW IDOL, their NEW STP, their NEW APOSTLE! All saying in their sermons, that Mr Armstrong taught his own OPINION. Or that he didn’t UNDERSTAND this or that. Such as things as the use of Makeup they say. Or the Laodicean Era. Or Prophecy! They believing the seeds of doubt TEACH that DISLOYALTY to their converts! They reject Spiritual Knowledge restored to us through Jesus Christ’s Apostle, even in ONE POINT, they have rejected Knowledge, Spiritual Knowledge(TRUTH). Notice Hosea 4:6. Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. God is saying “Because you have rejected spiritual knowledge(Truth), my people are destroyed because you don’t teach them the spiritual knowledge you rejected. Because you have rejected Spiritual Truth(knowledge)God rejects you as HIS minister(even though they continue in vocation as a minister, insuring themselves a paycheck). Because you reject the truth given, God will forget those who are learning from you.” If this applies to us, We would be rejected of God as HIS minister,although we might continue in vocation as a minister, God won’t consider those we teach, as His Children, members of God’s Church. Now God might call them out of that error. Just as he would from any Church of this world. Unless called AWAY from such a attitude from this world, they are children of Satan, not God. Then the Church becomes a Church of this world not God’s. That is what happened in the 1970’s. Liberals rejected God’s Truth given through the Apostle. They have their NEW APOSTLE. God had to act and he revived His Apostle to CLEAN HOUSE, and get them back on track with Jesus Christ, back to being God’s Church, out away from the world’s way being masqueraded by men who rejected God’s Truth through the Apostle. And when shown that Truth are they to give God’s Tithe to one who REJECTS that truth? Where Does God’s Tithe go? Are we to give godspeed to them that reject God’s mind, God’s teaching on makeup, God’s Government etc, etc? See How the Devil works? 2Co 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 2Co 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. Their foundation and house is “made by man, for man”. Psa 127:1 Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the LORD keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain. Psa 127:2 It is vain for you to rise up early, to sit up late, to eat the bread of sorrows: NOTICE a little more of the principles and teachings of this NEW IDOL, this NEW APOSTLE OF SATAN THE DEVIL!!

[Quote]“The systematic theology project is the product of numerous ministers and scholars of the Worldwide Church of God. It is only through this substantial resource of knowledge and experience that we can hope to attain a reflection of God’s Understanding and wisdom. Yet the systematic theology must not be cemented in stone. It will need continual revision as God guides the Church in further understanding of His Word.

What is herein presented is therefore still in preliminary form. It must continue to grow in both scope and quality. But it cannot grow without constant constructive input from the ministry. Ministers should consider it their responsibility to help refine the Systematic Theology project, contributing to it in the same spirit with which it was prepared. Hence, we accept, appreciate and welcome–indeed solicit–all information which serves to enhance and improve this effort.

Such input may take the form of short or long edits, comments, ideas, additions, deletions, critiques, scriptural references, and/or new information and research. The proper procedure for giving input is to present your contribution in as clear a manner as possible and send it to the Systematic Theology Project at Church Headquarters in Pasadena, California, U.S.A., in care of Dr. Robert Kuhn. All information will be read and considered, and if accurate, appropriate and approved, it will be incorporated.

Input from the general membership of the Church is also welcome, but should be submitted through the local pastor. The sheer volume of such material could overwhelm the headquarters staff unless it is deemed by the local pastor to have merit. No doctrinal paper can be considered unless the author’s pastor has studied the paper and then submitted it with his appropriate annotations, edits, or comments.”[End Quote] Notice that THE APOSTLE of God was left out! Notice that what was approved was approved by Robert Kuhn(in Reality Garner Ted Armstrong), NOT Herbert W Armstrong! Not By God’s Government set in the Church! Notice it sheds light to the type of Government the United Church of God has as well. That the Ministers gave the input and made the decisions, and whom through the membership voiced their judgments as well. It REVEALS A LOT! The STP also reveals and teaches that the Church’s Commission was Matt 24:14 and to fulfill the role of Elijah of Malachi 4. EXACTLY what you find within the Churches of God corporate works today!! Instead of what God’s Word CLEARLY TEACHES! As Jesus Christ’s Apostle Taught! Notice the Following:

[Quote]“The early disciples followed Christ’s command to preach this gospel of the Kingdom as a witness to all nations. The Worldwide Church of God also follows this command and views as the primary reason for its existence the commission to preach the gospel of the Kingdom to all nations in accordance with Jesus Christ’s instructions. The Church today strives to continue fulfilling that commission with ever-increasing effectiveness, following in the tradition of Elijah the prophet and John the Baptist (Mal. 4:5-6), by preparing the way for Christ’s return through the announcement of that gospel message. “[End Quote]

Sound Familiar? Also, something VERY Important! The STP states that it Supersedes previous Publications, articles, and UNDERSTANDINGS! Instead of reading precious writing’s of the Church , one would only need to read the STP. Notice!

[Quote]“While these statements of current teachings and practices contain very little that is “new” as such, in some cases they do include additional supportive information and commentary, or contain original analyses, syntheses and approaches, or give fresh insight and understanding–all of which reflect positively in generating refined comprehension of, and continued confidence in, the fundamental doctrinal convictions of the Church. As such, these papers supersede individual opinions; out-of-print publications, articles, and booklets; and past teachings and earlier understandings. As far as the papers themselves make possible, they should be used for doctrinal understanding and exposition. “[End Quote]

Sound Familiar? The VERY thing is being utilized and acted upon within the various SPLINTER CHURCHES calling themselves “The Churches of God”, the COG’S!! They teach that their teachings, books, booklets, articles, sermons, etc., etc, SUPERSEDE what was taught by Jesus Christ through Herbert W Armstrong! That you don’t need to read the “Old stuff”. NO NEED to study earlier understandings. They teach that what they produce SUPERSEDES the RESTORED Truth! ALL of The COG’S do this! ALL the actions of the COGS are traced back to the STP! They are utilizing the STP’s principles INSTEAD OF GOD’S! They have set up an Idol, perhaps some not even KNOWING IT! Do you think that Satan hasn’t duped us ALL? This STRONG DELUSION, the FALLING AWAY IS REAL!!! IT IS HERE, NOW, TODAY! Being played out in front of our eyes, are we SPIRITUALLY CONSIENCE OF WHAT IS GOING ON??  
From:Worldwide News – Special Edition, 24th June 1985, Page 1 Recent History of the Philadelphia Era of the Worldwide Church of God By: Herbert W Armstrong

“It had become custom to hold an annual ministerial conference of ministers at Pasadena headquarters. In the 1974 to 1977 conferences, these meetings had been marred by controversies over doctrinal issues.

Just before the January, 1978, conference I was determined to prevent doctrinal controversy. I was also due to leave on another ’round-the-world trip. I had decided to postpone the trip until after the conference in order to keep controversy out of the conference. But the one to be left in charge in my absence urged me to remain for the opening morning session, so that I could open the conference, and keep my departure at 12 noon, and he gave me his word no doctrines would be discussed in the conference, only administrative matters.

I agreed to this. I opened the conference, left immediately for the airport and had lunch on the plane. I was going first to Japan, then across the north pole to Europe, and into western Africa before returning to Pasadena.

I had not gotten very far out over the Pacific Ocean that afternoon, until in the afternoon session of the conference a voluminous printed work called “Systematic Theology Project,” or “STP” for short, was distributed to the ministry with specific instructions that this was a definite outline of basic Church doctrines, and no minister was to preach anything contrary to this treatise.

I knew absolutely nothing of this STP, or that it had been in preparation. It had been carefully concealed from me. It was a flagrant violation of the promise made to induce me to leave so this doctrinal change in Church teaching could be given to all ministers without my knowledge. I knew nothing of this STP in spite of claims made by others, until a copy was brought to me by some loyal ministers in late April or early May of 1978 when I then notified every minister in the world to return his copy immediately and ignore all its liberal doctrines and teachings.

It has come to my attention that some of the liberals, no longer members of God’s Church, have claimed that I did know of this infamous STP project. That is positively NOT TRUE. A few papers on one or two subjects, which were not liberal, had been brought to me in Tucson, Ariz., but no clear mention was made of the preparations under way for producing this STP project. None of the liberalized teachings in the STP were shown to me or approved by me at any time.

Some of these liberal ministers who worked on and produced the STP and the one who was in charge of executive administration in my absence were disfellowshipped and others left the Church.

At the time of the Feast of Tabernacles that fall, 1978, at a Festival held by one of these split-off liberals and a few who followed, in their own Feast of Tabernacles, a conspiracy was hatched to attack and destroy the Church by the legal process of a class action lawsuit. Some six or seven liberals, former members, signed the suit against the Church. This resulted in an ex parte order by a judge. Secretly without prior notice, deputies on order of the Attorney General’s office swooped down on the Church on the morning or Jan. 3, 1979. The ex parte order had been signed by a judge late the day before.”

From: Worldwide News – 9th July 1979, Page 1 NON-TITHING IS STEALING By Herbert W. Armstrong

“I am simply heartsick that my son assumed power and authority neither Christ nor I gave him to WATER DOWN GOD’S TRUTH. In that infamous “STP” [Systematic Theology Project], paying tithes, which WE OWE to God, was changed to merely mean a little GIVING – IF we feel like it!”

From:Worldwide News, 20th Nov 1978 page 1 HOW CHRIST GIVES THE CHURCH ITS BELIEFS By Herbert W Armstrong

“OBSERVE SPECIALLY. This was not a matter, as did happen at Pasadena, of one of lower rank appointed by an apostle, while the apostle was in another part of the world, calling together a conference of ministers of various ranks – all under that apostle – and determining or changing doctrine – watering down God’s TRUTH – and sending it out, as the Systematic Theology Project (STP) was, claiming falsely and without authority that it was an authoritative doctrinal pronouncement! In this case, it was PETER, chief apostle, who set the decision. The letter they then sent to the church at Antioch specified that this decision was inspired by the HOLY SPIRIT. PETER set it, James, local pastor acting as chairman of the meeting, confirmed Peter’s decision, making it OFFICIAL, inspired by the HOLY SPIRIT.” Notice it wasn’t by Peter’s OPINION that the decision was MADE! Nor was it with HERBERT W ARMSTRONG’S! Shame on them who think it is. And may God have mercy on them who teach others that lie! April 12, 1985 – Coming Out of Sin, Last Day of Unleavened Bread Sermon By Herbert W Armstrong

[Quote]“When I tell you these things, I’m only telling you what God reveals; and you can check up on it. It’s all in the Bible, and you can see it the same as I can.

I’m not giving you things that I made up in my mind. I didn’t originate the truths that I teach”. [end quote] 2Pe 3:2  That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour: We Should be MINDFUL of what was given through the Apostle! Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Gal 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. Gal 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. Gal 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. Of all the people from the Church, no one really are mindful of what the Apostle taught us. They consider much, some or one part of truth he taught as his personal opinion. He himself wouldn’t compromise God’s Truth, and in so doing, wouldn’t budge to any man made ideas others had. And to some it may seem strict. But once proven God’s Truth, we shouldn’t move from it. I believe Mr. Armstrong took personally the command in Rev 3:11, to HOLD FAST, do not compromise, letting no man to take the Already PROVEN TRUTHS Christ gave, away from you, taking your crown. And the many proven truths as Smoking and makeup was given to Mr. Armstrong and through him to us. And that was not of man. God’s Law was expounded on the issue. Most don’t understand it, or get it. But what God gave us through Mr. Armstrong is important, it is what prepares us to meet Christ in the air. And I believe the command in Rev 3:11 applies to all of the Church. God’s Way is no compromise to God’s Law, to God’s Truth. Mr. Armstrong wrote in the Good News Magazine(August 1983), [Quote] I have written about the ecumenical movement to unite the churchesby compromise of doctrines and practices. ” Think it hasn’t reached us?? This Liberalism is the WAY OF SATAN! Ar we to follow it, right into the Lake of Fire? Meaning of Days of Unleavened bread April 6, 1985 Herbert W. Armstrong

[Quote]“Brethren, I wont compromise. If you want to compromise, go join one of these factions that have turned off from us that are LIBERAL. They’ll be real liberal. They let you go if you want to go Satan’s way instead of God’s way, and PRETEND that you’re in the Kingdom of God, PRETEND YOU’RE IN GOD’S CHURCH. If you want to KID YOURSELF, go do it until you die. But you’re being JUDGED NOW. JUDGMENT IS ON THE HOUSE OF GOD. JUDGMENT IS ON US. JUDGMENT IS NOT ON THE PEOPLE IN CHINA AND THE PEOPLE IN INDIA AND THE PEOPLE IN RUSSIA. JUDGMENT IS NOT ON EVEN THE PROTESTANTS AND THE CATHOLICS YET. BUT JUDGMENT IS ON US; AND WE’RE BEING JUDGED, BRETHREN.”[End Quote] Mr. Armstrong spoke on 7th of November 1981, in a sermon titled “What God Expects of Us”  Source

[Quote] You know, it’s a funny thing. I mentioned that just in part of a sermon over at Big Sandy on the Sabbath. It wasn’t the regular holy day message. It was just a special message on the Sabbath day. I tell you, news of that traveled from woman to woman and to women ALL OVER the United States. I began receiving letters. Women write, “Mr. Armstrong, I want to give you a woman’s viewpoint on that.” Yeah? Well, you know, I’m far more interested in getting God’s viewpoint, women. Did you know that?

You should have heard the sermon this morning — how king Saul was interested in getting the people’s viewpoint. He wanted to please the people. That’s just the trouble. We had MINISTERS HERE IN CHARGE OF HEADQUARTERS that wanted to please the people and do whatever was popular with them. One man over the ministers, he had been the student body president when he was a senior in college many, many years ago. I think that’s over, yes, twenty some years ago.

Do you know why he was made student body president? I did it. I’ve done a lot of things I had to ask God to forgive me for later. I used bad judgment. I made him student body president because he was the most popular student on the campus. I didn’t realize something in that man’s makeup and character at that time. He always wanted to do whatever would please people.

He would make any compromise. He would give in anything. He wouldn’t hold to the truth. He would compromise with God’s truth if that would please some other person. He wanted to know what pleased people and he wanted to please people, not God; and He did that as a minister. He had something to do with this very subject. As a matter of fact, he had something to do with starting this whole movement of liberalism in the Church.

Liberalism is a whole lot more than just makeup. That’s only one thing. The reason that I’m getting to it is that this is what STARTED everything off the track! Now I’ve written a good-sized article. It will appear in the Worldwide News [16 November 1981 issue], and has appeared this week in the Pastor General’s Report. I’m going to read what I wrote and make some comments as I go along about it, and use that in lieu of the sermon here this afternoon. It’s titled “How subtly Satan used MAKEUP to start the Church off (on) the (wrong) track,” and “How Satan began injecting liberalism into God’s Church.”

For over three years now the living Christ has been working to put this Church back on the track! But how did the people of the living God get off the track? How did it all start? How did we get off the track in the first place? How did the whole world first get off of the track? How did the world get off the track, and then how did … Now God got us back on the track part way, and we came out of the world; and then we began to get off the track.[End Quote]

ALSO READ: NEW TV AND RADIO PROGRAMS By Herbert W. Armstrong Worldwide News, 24th March 1980, Page 1 How Did You Come to Know the Truth? By Herbert W. Armstrong The Good News October 1979 The History of the Beginning and Growth of the Worldwide Church of God by Herbert W. Armstrong page 2 Good News April 1980 Coworker Letter Herbert W Armstrong June 8, 1979 Coworker Letter Herbert W Armstrong September 8, 1980 Coworker Letter Herbert W Armstrong January 7, 1979 GOD COMMANDS THAT WE AVOID CERTAIN ONES By Herbert W. Armstrong Worldwide News, 25th Feb 1980 page 1 CHRIST NOW MOVES TO PUT GOD’S GOVERNMENT BACK ON THE TRACK by Herbert W. Armstrong page 2 Good News September 1979 THE GREAT MAJESTIC GOD – being enthroned in eyes of Church once again by Jesus Christ by Herbert W. Armstrong page 1 Good News July 31, 1978 CHRIST NOW PUTS CHURCH BACK ON GOD’S FINANCIAL TRACK! by Herbert W. Armstrong page 2 Good News January 1979]]>

OPINION: S.T.P Implemeted in modern "Church of God" organizations.

The Systematic Theology Project, or S.T.P that slipped it’s way into the hands of the ministers of the Worldwide Church of God during the 1970’s is being implemented into modern churches! [NOTE: this is ANTI-STP not PRO-STP] A look into the modern “Church of God” organizations will shock older members of the Worldwide Church of God members! Continue reading…